Gnome Fighter (Repost) [Archive] - Wizards Community

Gnome Fighter (Repost) [Archive] - Wizards Community

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LachlarlanIII
03-08-07, 12:22 PM I have a strong inclination to play this character in the Greyhawk Ruins metacampaign.

Race: Gnome

Abilities: Str 13, Dex 14, Con 16, Int 10, Wis 14, Cha 8

1: Fighter 1 - Combat Focus, *Weapon Focus (Longsword)
2: Fighter 2 - *Dodge
3: Fighter 3 - Combat Stability
4: Fighter 4 - *Weapon Specialization (Longsword), Str 14
5: Fighter 5
6: Fighter 6 - Combat Defense, *Titan Fighting
7: Fighter 7
8: Fighter 8 - *Melee Weapon Mastery (Slashing), Str 15
9: Fighter 9 - Power Attack
10: Fighter 10 - *Mobility
11: Fighter 11
12: Fighter 12 - Elusive Target, *Greater Weapon Focus (Longsword), Str 16
13: Fighter 13
14: Fighter 14 - *Greater Weapon Specialization (Longsword)
15: Fighter 15 - Slashing Flurry

This build plus Combat Expertise (if I rearrange my stats) and Deadly Defense sounds nasty.

Does anyone have any suggestions on what I could drop in favor of both or either?
Alpha_Nerd
03-08-07, 12:28 PM What part of the build do you like best? If you like the Combat Defense/Elusive Target awesomeness stick with that but push Elusive up as early as possible. If you like the Gnome aspect I'd go with Fighter 10/Blade Bravo 5 for Size Advantage ridiculousness.
LachlarlanIII
03-08-07, 12:41 PM Well, as the build is mine from a previous (now buried) post, I like it exactly as it is.

At 15th it this build does decent damage with very good attack bonuses. +30/+25/+20 to hit for 1d6+13 damage. Can PA for 10 and still be +20 to hit with the primary swing.

With Deadly Defense, I can fight defensively to get +1d6 damage.

I don't think I can fit Combat Expertise into the build without losing too much. (ability scores and feats)

The current build, while in Combat Focus can also get +5 Dodge bonus to AC as an immediate action against any opponent larger than himself. (which is going to be most of them)

I'm thinking I could drop GWF and GWS but then I lose +1 to hit and +2 damage in exchange for an average +3 damage when fighting defensively.
Alpha_Nerd
03-08-07, 12:49 PM I agree with dropping GWF and GWS, I just don't think they do enough without Weapon Supremecy. If I was to build this character, I'd try to pick up both Elusive Target and Combat Defense at 6th, they're just so awesome together.

1: Fighter 1 - Combat Focus, Dodge
2: Fighter 2 - Power Attack
3: Fighter 3 - Combat Stability
4: Fighter 4 - Mobility, Str 14
5: Fighter 5
6: Fighter 6 - Combat Defense, Elusive Target
7: Fighter 7
8: Fighter 8 - Titan Fighting, Str 15
9: Fighter 9 - Weapon Focus: Warhammer
10: Fighter 10 - Weapon Specialization: Warhammer
11: Fighter 11
12: Fighter 12 - Melee Weapon Mastery (Bludgeoning), Brutal Strike Str 16
13: Fighter 13
14: Fighter 14 - Crushing Strikes
15: Barbarian 1 - Extra Rage

I really like Crushing Strikes more than Slashing Flurry, and I think a Warhammer is more Gnome-y. Your build works great though.
bitznarf
03-08-07, 12:52 PM I agree with dropping GWF and GWS, I just don't think they do enough without Weapon Supremecy. If I was to build this character, I'd try to pick up both Elusive Target and Combat Defense at 6th, they're just so awesome together.

1: Fighter 1 - Combat Focus, Dodge
2: Fighter 2 - Power Attack
3: Fighter 3 - Combat Stability
4: Fighter 4 - Mobility, Str 14
5: Fighter 5
6: Fighter 6 - Combat Defense, Elusive Target
7: Fighter 7
8: Fighter 8 - Titan Fighting, Str 15
9: Fighter 9 - Weapon Focus: Warhammer
10: Fighter 10 - Weapon Specialization: Warhammer
11: Fighter 11
12: Fighter 12 - Melee Weapon Mastery (Bludgeoning), Brutal Strike Str 16
13: Fighter 13
14: Fighter 14 - Crushing Strikes
15: Barbarian 1 - Extra Rage

I really like Crushing Strikes more than Slashing Flurry, and I think a Warhammer is more Gnome-y. Your build works great though.

Can you Rage while in a combat focus? I really have no idea here.
LachlarlanIII
03-08-07, 12:53 PM Can you Rage while in a combat focus? I really have no idea here.

I would say yes as I don't believe Combat Focus specifies anything one way or the other against Rage or Frenzy.

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LachlarlanIII 03-08-07, 12:22 PM	I have a strong inclination to play this character in the Greyhawk Ruins metacampaign. Race: Gnome Abilities: Str 13, Dex 14, Con 16, Int 10, Wis 14, Cha 8 1: Fighter 1 - Combat Focus, Weapon Focus (Longsword) 2: Fighter 2 - Dodge 3: Fighter 3 - Combat Stability 4: Fighter 4 - Weapon Specialization (Longsword), Str 14 5: Fighter 5 6: Fighter 6 - Combat Defense, Titan Fighting 7: Fighter 7 8: Fighter 8 - Melee Weapon Mastery (Slashing), Str 15 9: Fighter 9 - Power Attack 10: Fighter 10 - Mobility 11: Fighter 11 12: Fighter 12 - Elusive Target, Greater Weapon Focus (Longsword), Str 16 13: Fighter 13 14: Fighter 14 - Greater Weapon Specialization (Longsword) 15: Fighter 15 - Slashing Flurry This build plus Combat Expertise (if I rearrange my stats) and Deadly Defense sounds nasty. Does anyone have any suggestions on what I could drop in favor of both or either?
Alpha_Nerd 03-08-07, 12:28 PM	What part of the build do you like best? If you like the Combat Defense/Elusive Target awesomeness stick with that but push Elusive up as early as possible. If you like the Gnome aspect I'd go with Fighter 10/Blade Bravo 5 for Size Advantage ridiculousness.
LachlarlanIII 03-08-07, 12:41 PM	Well, as the build is mine from a previous (now buried) post, I like it exactly as it is. At 15th it this build does decent damage with very good attack bonuses. +30/+25/+20 to hit for 1d6+13 damage. Can PA for 10 and still be +20 to hit with the primary swing. With Deadly Defense, I can fight defensively to get +1d6 damage. I don't think I can fit Combat Expertise into the build without losing too much. (ability scores and feats) The current build, while in Combat Focus can also get +5 Dodge bonus to AC as an immediate action against any opponent larger than himself. (which is going to be most of them) I'm thinking I could drop GWF and GWS but then I lose +1 to hit and +2 damage in exchange for an average +3 damage when fighting defensively.
Alpha_Nerd 03-08-07, 12:49 PM	I agree with dropping GWF and GWS, I just don't think they do enough without Weapon Supremecy. If I was to build this character, I'd try to pick up both Elusive Target and Combat Defense at 6th, they're just so awesome together. 1: Fighter 1 - Combat Focus, Dodge 2: Fighter 2 - Power Attack 3: Fighter 3 - Combat Stability 4: Fighter 4 - Mobility, Str 14 5: Fighter 5 6: Fighter 6 - Combat Defense, Elusive Target 7: Fighter 7 8: Fighter 8 - Titan Fighting, Str 15 9: Fighter 9 - Weapon Focus: Warhammer 10: Fighter 10 - Weapon Specialization: Warhammer 11: Fighter 11 12: Fighter 12 - Melee Weapon Mastery (Bludgeoning), Brutal Strike Str 16 13: Fighter 13 14: Fighter 14 - Crushing Strikes 15: Barbarian 1 - Extra Rage I really like Crushing Strikes more than Slashing Flurry, and I think a Warhammer is more Gnome-y. Your build works great though.
bitznarf 03-08-07, 12:52 PM	I agree with dropping GWF and GWS, I just don't think they do enough without Weapon Supremecy. If I was to build this character, I'd try to pick up both Elusive Target and Combat Defense at 6th, they're just so awesome together. 1: Fighter 1 - Combat Focus, Dodge 2: Fighter 2 - Power Attack 3: Fighter 3 - Combat Stability 4: Fighter 4 - Mobility, Str 14 5: Fighter 5 6: Fighter 6 - Combat Defense, Elusive Target 7: Fighter 7 8: Fighter 8 - Titan Fighting, Str 15 9: Fighter 9 - Weapon Focus: Warhammer 10: Fighter 10 - Weapon Specialization: Warhammer 11: Fighter 11 12: Fighter 12 - Melee Weapon Mastery (Bludgeoning), Brutal Strike Str 16 13: Fighter 13 14: Fighter 14 - Crushing Strikes 15: Barbarian 1 - Extra Rage I really like Crushing Strikes more than Slashing Flurry, and I think a Warhammer is more Gnome-y. Your build works great though. Can you Rage while in a combat focus? I really have no idea here.
LachlarlanIII 03-08-07, 12:53 PM	Can you Rage while in a combat focus? I really have no idea here. I would say yes as I don't believe Combat Focus specifies anything one way or the other against Rage or Frenzy.