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control freak 08-05-07, 06:22 PM	i am decideing between races for my charger (who will ride a dog till something else becomes avalable perferably a big bat) so far all i see of consequence is the +1 saves a halfling gets is there a difference? im useing the same stat build for each 16 14 14 8 10 8 all STR bumps ftr1: mounted combat, ride by ftr2: spirited charge ftr3: power attack ftr4: improved bull rush ftr6: imp sunder, shock trooper ftr8: combat brute ftr9: feat ftr10: feat ftr12: 2 feats ftr14: feat ftr15: feat do shock trooper and brutes, headless charge+ momentem swing work with ride by? and what other feats should i take? WF,WS, MWM seem good but where?
CdrcJsn 08-05-07, 06:32 PM	Halfling Outrider from Complete Warrior might influence your decision.
control freak 08-05-07, 07:07 PM	thats true, it does give saves as well so i might as well take it is there any non lance whepon that is treated as a lance for spirited charge?
clannagh 08-05-07, 07:54 PM	thats true, it does give saves as well so i might as well take it is there any non lance whepon that is treated as a lance for spirited charge? Not as far as i am aware. Spirited Charge does however give double damage with a normal melee weapon. This means that if your mount has a good attack it can sometimes be worth your while to charge using something like a longsword which only has 5' reach. This is especially if you have a sacred scabbard as the item RAI arguabley is be intended for all melee weapons but RAW actually does not work on lances or polearms. It can also be an advantage if you are a paladin going all out to try and bring down the BBG and have shared divine sacrifice with your mount,
Jay_Ibero_911 08-05-07, 08:26 PM	Not as far as i am aware. Spirited Charge does however give double damage with a normal melee weapon. This means that if your mount has a good attack it can sometimes be worth your while to charge using something like a longsword which only has 5' reach. This is especially if you have a sacred scabbard as the item RAI arguabley is be intended for all melee weapons but RAW actually does not work on lances or polearms. It can also be an advantage if you are a paladin going all out to try and bring down the BBG and have shared divine sacrifice with your mount, Of course on the off chance you can spare the feat...Short Haft will let you reduce your lance to 5ft reach.
control freak 08-05-07, 08:29 PM	is there any way to get a bat/dragon/owl/other flying mount via meta org? or PRC (i wish i had access to draconomicons "dragon rider" class) what classes could help me there?
Jay_Ibero_911 08-05-07, 09:22 PM	is there any way to get a bat/dragon/owl/other flying mount via meta org? or PRC (i wish i had access to draconomicons "dragon rider" class) what classes could help me there? Well you can get a dire bat mount quite easily with a level of beastmaster.
control freak 08-05-07, 09:32 PM	so no way to get a dragon (i want it for flavor) if not, i will tolerate 1 level of beast master for it but then i gota squeeze in the feat
Jay_Ibero_911 08-05-07, 10:18 PM	Race:Halfling Alignment: STR-16 (10)-2 DEX-15 (8)+2 CON-14 (6) INT-12 (4) WIS-8 (0) CHA-8 (0) Lv1(Fighter)Mounted Combat, Ride-by Attack Lv2(Fighter)Spirited Charge Lv3(Fighter)Skill Focus (Handle Animal) Lv4(Fighter)Power Attack, +1 DEX Lv5(Fighter) Lv6(Beastmaster)Improved Bull Rush Lv7(Fighter)Shock Trooper Lv8(Fighter)+1 STR Lv9(Fighter)Improved Sunder, Combat Brute Lv10(Fighter) Lv11(Fighter)Weapon Focus (Lance) Lv12(Fighter)Weapon Specialization, +1 STR Lv13(Fighter)Melee Weapon Mastery Lv14(Fighter) Lv15(Fighter)Greater Weapon Focus, Greater Weapon Specialization There you go. All skill points into handle animal, ride, and survival.
control freak 08-05-07, 11:12 PM	wheres the dire bat listed? in the PHB? (hasnt EVER seen the list thing for druids, i do HATE druids alot) and theres no way to get a dragon mount oh well i guess they HATE dragons in greyhawk
_metz_ 08-05-07, 11:20 PM	wheres the dire bat listed? in the PHB? (hasnt EVER seen the list thing for druids, i do HATE druids alot) and theres no way to get a dragon mount oh well i guess they HATE dragons in greyhawk They don't hate Dragons. Its just Dragons aren't the kind of beasts to let themselves be ridden around by a Halfling. They are intelligent, extremely powerful, and supposedly very rare. They are not an Adventurer's mount, especially at lower levels. I know Dragons look cool in movies and Warhammer and all these other things, but they aren't the Dragons of DnD Canon, which are a different and exceedingly powerful (when they get older) beast. (and not too common in most campaigns).
control freak 08-05-07, 11:28 PM	my cleric disagrees it has played like 12 adventures is level 5 (almost 6) and has fought 4 (1/3 adventures isnt really rare, and he didnt play red hand of doom or hellspike prison, or any other high levels highest APL he played is 6) and he is definately a dragon slayer as our partys were nearly killed each time and he came back with obscure ways to win, hey a STR+bull strenghted max damage crit can hurt even dragons :cool: and as for the bat is it on the standard list or an expanded list?
_metz_ 08-05-07, 11:33 PM	my cleric disagrees it has played like 12 adventures is level 5 (almost 6) and has fought 4 (1/3 adventures isnt really rare, and he didnt play red hand of doom or hellspike prison, or any other high levels highest APL he played is 6) and he is definately a dragon slayer as our partys were nearly killed each time and he came back with obscure ways to win, hey a STR+bull strenghted max damage crit can hurt even dragons :cool: and as for the bat is it on the standard list or an expanded list? But they would have all been evil or undead dragons or something would they have not? That kind of means you are asking for an evil mount, which is something silly in itself. How many good dragons have you met?
Jay_Ibero_911 08-06-07, 12:11 AM	my cleric disagrees it has played like 12 adventures is level 5 (almost 6) and has fought 4 (1/3 adventures isnt really rare, and he didnt play red hand of doom or hellspike prison, or any other high levels highest APL he played is 6) and he is definately a dragon slayer as our partys were nearly killed each time and he came back with obscure ways to win, hey a STR+bull strenghted max damage crit can hurt even dragons :cool: and as for the bat is it on the standard list or an expanded list? A friend of mine ACCIDENTALLY killed a dragon on it's first action with an AOO. Spear+Combat Reflexes+item that makes you always readied vs. charge+charging dragon+crit=dead dragon...to be fair it was a relatively weak dragon and a relatively high damage hit.
control freak 08-06-07, 10:23 AM	actualy no one of them was LG (or CG i cant remember) with the shadow template and another was true N as for dragons being rare....:rolleyes: they are uncommon that means you get 3 a pack not 1 :heehee but im not asking for some collosal great wurm, im asking for a wormling or at most a juvinal (thats more then i expect) and wormlings arent that hard to come by (at least not terribly and i know that theres at least 1 adventure i will play next year with dragons, hence the name Dragon down grotto and a pic of a blue/green dragon on the frount) as much as DnD claims them to be rare, Living greyhawk disagrees and on my build if i can get a bat that would be fantastic and i like the build you have listed other then the stats however im starting to understand that the 16 str isnt that much more then 14 since i cant 1 1/2 str 16 str very well so probably 14 -10 16 -6 15 -8 10 -2 10 -2 8 also can any one confirm that combat brute and shock trooper work when ride bying?
LachlarlanIII 08-06-07, 12:42 PM	You'll be a paper tiger with all those mounted feats if you don't take some form of animal companion/special mount class feature. The first fireball or empowered magic missile will kill your mount, and in general, you shouldn't expect to find access to a special one with better stats later.