Halfling Outrider Build [Archive] - Wizards Community

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Alpha_Nerd

02-12-07, 03:45 PM
Ok, so druids get a rebuild. My Halfling Outrider is currently Druid 1/Fighter 1 which techinically means he gets a rebuild. I've decided not to abuse this and to keep the character on the same route, I just want to post his build and make sure I'm not messing anything up before I can't change that much.

Halfling Druid 3/Fighter 2/Beastmaster 1/Hospitaler 1/Halfling Outrider 8

STR 14
DEX 12
CON 15
INT 10
WIS 14
CHA 8

1 Druid: Mounted Combat
2 Fighter: Power Attack
3 Fighter: Ride-By attack, Skill Focus: Handle Animal
4 Druid: STR +1
5 Druid
6 Beastmaster: Spirited Charge
7 Hospitaler: Mounted Archery
8 Halfling Outrider: STR +1
9 Halfling Outrider: Improved Bullrush
10 Halfling Outrider
11 Halfling Outrider
12 Halfling Outrider: CON +1, Cometary Collision or Shock Trooper
13 Halfling Outrider
14 Halfling Outrider
15 Halfling Outrider: Cometary Collision or Shock Trooper

+14 BAB
Fort +12
Ref: +9
Will: +5
AC Bonus: +4
Effective Druid Level for Animal Companion: 15

I think the classes/feats are pretty well set in stone, but the stats are up in the air. The 10 INT is so after I get the 8 ranks in handle animal I can keep Ride, Spot, and Listen maxed. With 8 ranks and Skill Focus: Handle Animal I get a 20 when taking 10, which I think will be plenty. I picked up a 15 CON because it would be really hard to get a 15 STR (14 CON + 13 WIS) but I guess it would be do-able. So, what do you guys think?
Alpha_Nerd

02-13-07, 12:44 PM
Bump for change in build. Improved Bullrush and Cometary Collision have been added. Why? Because I think the feat is hilarious and being able to charge through rough terrain and allies makes it much more effective. Also, would my mount have to have the feat or would my character have to?
LachlarlanIII

02-13-07, 01:53 PM
Bump for change in build. Improved Bullrush and Cometary Collision have been added. Why? Because I think the feat is hilarious and being able to charge through rough terrain and allies makes it much more effective. Also, would my mount have to have the feat or would my character have to?

Depends on who's doing the attack after the charge.
Alpha_Nerd

02-13-07, 01:58 PM
That brings up another question. A lance specifically gives a character 10ft reach, but my dog can only reach 5ft. If I charge with a ride-by attack, would I hit it from 10 ft away, my dog moves in 5 ft and does his charge attack, then ride past him? Also, if I do a ride-by attack, would the creature be able to hit me if I end my charge out of his reach? If both of us are allowed to attack I would assume I need the feats for him aswell?
ZX670

02-13-07, 04:53 PM
That brings up another question. A lance specifically gives a character 10ft reach, but my dog can only reach 5ft. If I charge with a ride-by attack, would I hit it from 10 ft away, my dog moves in 5 ft and does his charge attack, then ride past him? Also, if I do a ride-by attack, would the creature be able to hit me if I end my charge out of his reach? If both of us are allowed to attack I would assume I need the feats for him aswell?

I know I've seen this before somewhere, but I think your dog would not get an attack because of the reach, as it's you making the Ride-by-attack, not the dog.
clannagh

02-13-07, 04:57 PM
That brings up another question. A lance specifically gives a character 10ft reach, but my dog can only reach 5ft. If I charge with a ride-by attack, would I hit it from 10 ft away, my dog moves in 5 ft and does his charge attack, then ride past him? Also, if I do a ride-by attack, would the creature be able to hit me if I end my charge out of his reach? If both of us are allowed to attack I would assume I need the feats for him aswell?

two problems here

- you ride by attack at 10 feet so the dog never gets to bite, same thing with a normal charge

- even if the dog had reach the ride by attack only lets YOU attack mid charge not the dog

To achieve what you want you would need to be mounted on a mount with 10' reach and the mount would need either "spring attack" or "fly by attack" as a feat
Alpha_Nerd

02-13-07, 05:39 PM
What if I do a standard charge? Do we both get to attack?
ZX670

02-13-07, 05:40 PM
What if I do a standard charge? Do we both get to attack?

So long as you are wielding a non-reach weapon, yes.
Alpha_Nerd

02-13-07, 05:42 PM
Do Small Lances give reach?
Tahldrehlian

02-14-07, 05:03 PM
Do Small Lances give reach?

Yes.

Also, you may want to check out the Wild Plains Outrider class out of Complete Adventurer. It gives some great abilities over it's 3 levels... most notably a speed boost and the ability to make a full attack after a single move.