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Help with Special Mission idea [Archive] - Wizards Community

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RedKnightofKet
02-13-07, 09:50 PM Okay, so here's the deal: I'm helping someone with a special mission request, and I have the option (according to my triad's website), to request something of my own. Among other possible request, I can ask for access to a variety of NONC things, be it prestige class access or requirements, a feat, or a spell.

Where I'm stuck, though, is that I can't decide what to ask for, so I figured I would ask here, since I think there are some similar characters out there.

Anyway, vital info:

The special mission (APL 4) is for a cleric of Istus (Bahklunish goddess, aka Lady of the Fates). I am a dwarven cleric of Gendwar Argrim (Dwarven Hero-god, portfolio is fatalism and obsession, aka the Doomsayer Dwarf). Should be third level by the time the SM happens.

I plan on going straight cleric, intending to use Smiting wherever possible. I'm geared towards being a combat cleric, and I already have Power Attack, and I use a Dwarven Waraxe.

Any further questions, and I will gladly give you more details as to the character and my plans for him.
UMiskatonic
02-13-07, 10:34 PM Well, keep in mind that you can always choose not to choose. "Give me something nifty, please..."

Aside from that, Cool options in my book involve making you either more 'dwarfy' or more 'Gendwar-like'. Can't think of a thing, aside from asking them about your own impending death. It would be really cool to have them prophesize that for you, and tell you, for example, "You will die fighting giants, in the OrionCon interactive, 598".

Then you can get REALLY fatalistic.
RedKnightofKet
02-13-07, 10:55 PM That makes sense. :)
I can go into it with a "it doesn't matter, we're all doomed anyway" approach.

The other option, and I think only Keolanders will get this, but I want to destroy the Keoish town of Haven, a community of half-orcs, etc. I had a really negative experience there, and even swore an oath to one day destroy it. This should prove difficult, since this town is a rather active meta-org in Keoland... hard to ask for the Ket Triad to give me permission to demolish a Keoland triad. :P
cycloptic_squirrel
02-13-07, 11:06 PM That makes sense. :)
I can go into it with a "it doesn't matter, we're all doomed anyway" approach.

The other option, and I think only Keolanders will get this, but I want to destroy the Keoish town of Haven, a community of half-orcs, etc. I had a really negative experience there, and even swore an oath to one day destroy it. This should prove difficult, since this town is a rather active meta-org in Keoland... hard to ask for the Ket Triad to give me permission to demolish a Keoland triad. :P

Could prove interesting. What was the negative experience there? Was it the intro mod? Oh jeez. Did they 'Hool-toss' you?

Then again, at a con where a friend aquired some land, it was openly declared by several people that they wanted a special mission to burn down the warehouse he was going to build. Apparently they don't understand how vital underpants gnomes can be to the local economy. :P
RedKnightofKet
02-13-07, 11:17 PM Cycloptic, you've got it right. I didn't want to do it at all. I did the whole adventure while dragging my heels - it was completely against his character to do it....

New idea: see if I can swap out my first cleric level for the racial substitution in RS: means I get a smite giants instead of turn undead - fair trade for me :D
clannagh
02-14-07, 12:25 AM What about access to Gendwar contemplative ? That would give you law as a third domain .. not the world's best domain but OK and contemplative is very flavorful.
gomeztoo
02-14-07, 07:49 AM You can't actually let a Special Mission affect the region.
There are a lot of things you could go for though, not all need to be access to feats and such.
Possibilities:
- resolving a personal grudge, or aiming for s specific goa, that only affects your PC
- a waver for a requirement of a MO. I.e. if a MO you like to join requires you to be human, you could try to get that waved
- favors with NPCs/organisations
- a title, or symbolic position
- an atonement (or an IOU for one. Hey. It COULD be useful)
- nothing
paigeoliver
02-14-07, 08:22 AM If you REALLY want to affect the region you could always bring a table of like minded players to an interactive, ditch the mission and do what you were wanting to accomplish.
Gaelforcwynd
02-14-07, 09:37 AM What about access to Gendwar contemplative ? That would give you law as a third domain .. not the world's best domain but OK and contemplative is very flavorful.

I agree. Please list the domains for that deity and your alignment and skills. Access to a PrC is surely the way to go.

Actually I checked the domains. Which one's did you choose? I hope you took Celerity. Oracle is okay too.
Alpha_Nerd
02-14-07, 10:28 AM Maybe access to Church Inquisitor? It's Open but requires AR or Meta-Org documentation.
Golorious
02-14-07, 01:12 PM There a a bunch of spells that are handy since you have a special mission for a cleric and you are a cleric you can double up! :)

There are just tons of great spells. But since this is a low mission I went (I think for 1-3rd level spells)

Moon lust
close wounds
Conviction
conviction, mass
Divine protection
Divine protection, mass
Knight's Move (great for battle clerics)
Align weapon, mass
Aid, Mass
Awaken Sin
resistance greater
Shield of faith mass
Moon bolt
RedKnightofKet
02-14-07, 08:38 PM My domains are Destruction and War. Just looking at the some of the spells listed, and I think I am in love :love: with Awaken Sin. Being from Ket, a non-lethal spell could come in very handy...:schemes:
Gaelforcwynd
02-15-07, 04:57 AM Maybe access to Church Inquisitor? It's Open but requires AR or Meta-Org documentation.

You need to be a member of a Lawful Good church or organisation to take the Church Inquisitor PrC. Istus is of Neutral alignment. So at best you could hope that being one axis off Lawful Good might scrape you into membership of a Lawful Good church or organisation. What alignment are you RedKnightofKet?
RedKnightofKet
02-15-07, 10:00 AM Just to make things clear, here: the initial mission is for someone going for Contemplative of Istus. I, a LN dwarf cleric, worship Gendwar Argrim.

I've looked through all the prestige classes, and none really catch my fancy. Awaken Sin, however, looks like a great Ket-flavour spell, so that's likely what I will request as my part of the SM. At this point, I'm trying to see if anything comes up as a better idea than that.
jstorrie
02-15-07, 12:34 PM Awake Sin is definitely a better idea than the smite giants Dwarven sub (smite giants is far worse than turn undead) but I would keep in mind that nuking is generally a poor way to disable people. Bestow Curse and Blindness/Deafness are already good nonlethal ways to take someone down (is blinding someone illegal in Ket?) and you already have Hold Person as a will-targetting standard.

It's not a poor pick if you can't find anything else, though. You might consider Battlecaster Offense or Spell Focus Enchantment-Chain Spell-Metamagic School Focus if you want to mix smashing with disabling.
RedKnightofKet
02-15-07, 07:40 PM Well, the giant smiting was mainly because the flavour fit very well with Gendwar, but I can make do without. Cha 6 doesn't lead to a lot of turning as it is...

As for the legality of blinding somebody in Ket, I would think that, because it's a permanent affect, it would probably get me in trouble. And yes, there are better Open spells that create the same effect, I get something NONC for the character, and Awaken Sin would be a great fit.

As for feats, I'm not sure I want access to a feat all that badly... at Lvl 3 I'm taking Dwarven Armor Prof (Interlocking plate), and at 6th I'm looking at Extra Smiting. I'll have to get a look at CM sometime, though....
cycloptic_squirrel
02-15-07, 09:52 PM Cha of 6? So you get one turn attempt a day? That's not likely to be all that useful, whereas if you're a combat cleric you might not run into giants that often, but after looking at the smite ability, I'd definitely take it. What's your con? 16? At third level, it's only +3/+3, but you also get it 4 times a day. I'd say that worth being able to turn once a day.

Either that or ask for a keg that floats around you like some obese ion stone. :dancin:
RedKnightofKet
02-15-07, 10:48 PM Con currently is 17, and will go up to 18 at 4th. But that substitution level stuff (as I have been told by my triad) is not on the list of options. :(

Hmmm...... Keg Ion stone.... I *like* it! :D
solbergb
02-16-07, 03:11 AM You can't actually let a Special Mission affect the region.

Not strictly true. I just wrote one that will tie up a minor plot thread affecting my region as a side-effect of the mission, if all goes well.

Special missions are mostly about the characters involved, but that doesn't mean you can't tie it into the regional storylines if it makes sense to do so.

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RedKnightofKet 02-13-07, 09:50 PM	Okay, so here's the deal: I'm helping someone with a special mission request, and I have the option (according to my triad's website), to request something of my own. Among other possible request, I can ask for access to a variety of NONC things, be it prestige class access or requirements, a feat, or a spell. Where I'm stuck, though, is that I can't decide what to ask for, so I figured I would ask here, since I think there are some similar characters out there. Anyway, vital info: The special mission (APL 4) is for a cleric of Istus (Bahklunish goddess, aka Lady of the Fates). I am a dwarven cleric of Gendwar Argrim (Dwarven Hero-god, portfolio is fatalism and obsession, aka the Doomsayer Dwarf). Should be third level by the time the SM happens. I plan on going straight cleric, intending to use Smiting wherever possible. I'm geared towards being a combat cleric, and I already have Power Attack, and I use a Dwarven Waraxe. Any further questions, and I will gladly give you more details as to the character and my plans for him.
UMiskatonic 02-13-07, 10:34 PM	Well, keep in mind that you can always choose not to choose. "Give me something nifty, please..." Aside from that, Cool options in my book involve making you either more 'dwarfy' or more 'Gendwar-like'. Can't think of a thing, aside from asking them about your own impending death. It would be really cool to have them prophesize that for you, and tell you, for example, "You will die fighting giants, in the OrionCon interactive, 598". Then you can get REALLY fatalistic.
RedKnightofKet 02-13-07, 10:55 PM	That makes sense. :) I can go into it with a "it doesn't matter, we're all doomed anyway" approach. The other option, and I think only Keolanders will get this, but I want to destroy the Keoish town of Haven, a community of half-orcs, etc. I had a really negative experience there, and even swore an oath to one day destroy it. This should prove difficult, since this town is a rather active meta-org in Keoland... hard to ask for the Ket Triad to give me permission to demolish a Keoland triad. :P
cycloptic_squirrel 02-13-07, 11:06 PM	That makes sense. :) I can go into it with a "it doesn't matter, we're all doomed anyway" approach. The other option, and I think only Keolanders will get this, but I want to destroy the Keoish town of Haven, a community of half-orcs, etc. I had a really negative experience there, and even swore an oath to one day destroy it. This should prove difficult, since this town is a rather active meta-org in Keoland... hard to ask for the Ket Triad to give me permission to demolish a Keoland triad. :P Could prove interesting. What was the negative experience there? Was it the intro mod? Oh jeez. Did they 'Hool-toss' you? Then again, at a con where a friend aquired some land, it was openly declared by several people that they wanted a special mission to burn down the warehouse he was going to build. Apparently they don't understand how vital underpants gnomes can be to the local economy. :P
RedKnightofKet 02-13-07, 11:17 PM	Cycloptic, you've got it right. I didn't want to do it at all. I did the whole adventure while dragging my heels - it was completely against his character to do it.... New idea: see if I can swap out my first cleric level for the racial substitution in RS: means I get a smite giants instead of turn undead - fair trade for me :D
clannagh 02-14-07, 12:25 AM	What about access to Gendwar contemplative ? That would give you law as a third domain .. not the world's best domain but OK and contemplative is very flavorful.
gomeztoo 02-14-07, 07:49 AM	You can't actually let a Special Mission affect the region. There are a lot of things you could go for though, not all need to be access to feats and such. Possibilities: - resolving a personal grudge, or aiming for s specific goa, that only affects your PC - a waver for a requirement of a MO. I.e. if a MO you like to join requires you to be human, you could try to get that waved - favors with NPCs/organisations - a title, or symbolic position - an atonement (or an IOU for one. Hey. It COULD be useful) - nothing
paigeoliver 02-14-07, 08:22 AM	If you REALLY want to affect the region you could always bring a table of like minded players to an interactive, ditch the mission and do what you were wanting to accomplish.
Gaelforcwynd 02-14-07, 09:37 AM	What about access to Gendwar contemplative ? That would give you law as a third domain .. not the world's best domain but OK and contemplative is very flavorful. I agree. Please list the domains for that deity and your alignment and skills. Access to a PrC is surely the way to go. Actually I checked the domains. Which one's did you choose? I hope you took Celerity. Oracle is okay too.
Alpha_Nerd 02-14-07, 10:28 AM	Maybe access to Church Inquisitor? It's Open but requires AR or Meta-Org documentation.
Golorious 02-14-07, 01:12 PM	There a a bunch of spells that are handy since you have a special mission for a cleric and you are a cleric you can double up! :) There are just tons of great spells. But since this is a low mission I went (I think for 1-3rd level spells) Moon lust close wounds Conviction conviction, mass Divine protection Divine protection, mass Knight's Move (great for battle clerics) Align weapon, mass Aid, Mass Awaken Sin resistance greater Shield of faith mass Moon bolt
RedKnightofKet 02-14-07, 08:38 PM	My domains are Destruction and War. Just looking at the some of the spells listed, and I think I am in love :love: with Awaken Sin. Being from Ket, a non-lethal spell could come in very handy...:schemes:
Gaelforcwynd 02-15-07, 04:57 AM	Maybe access to Church Inquisitor? It's Open but requires AR or Meta-Org documentation. You need to be a member of a Lawful Good church or organisation to take the Church Inquisitor PrC. Istus is of Neutral alignment. So at best you could hope that being one axis off Lawful Good might scrape you into membership of a Lawful Good church or organisation. What alignment are you RedKnightofKet?
RedKnightofKet 02-15-07, 10:00 AM	Just to make things clear, here: the initial mission is for someone going for Contemplative of Istus. I, a LN dwarf cleric, worship Gendwar Argrim. I've looked through all the prestige classes, and none really catch my fancy. Awaken Sin, however, looks like a great Ket-flavour spell, so that's likely what I will request as my part of the SM. At this point, I'm trying to see if anything comes up as a better idea than that.
jstorrie 02-15-07, 12:34 PM	Awake Sin is definitely a better idea than the smite giants Dwarven sub (smite giants is far worse than turn undead) but I would keep in mind that nuking is generally a poor way to disable people. Bestow Curse and Blindness/Deafness are already good nonlethal ways to take someone down (is blinding someone illegal in Ket?) and you already have Hold Person as a will-targetting standard. It's not a poor pick if you can't find anything else, though. You might consider Battlecaster Offense or Spell Focus Enchantment-Chain Spell-Metamagic School Focus if you want to mix smashing with disabling.
RedKnightofKet 02-15-07, 07:40 PM	Well, the giant smiting was mainly because the flavour fit very well with Gendwar, but I can make do without. Cha 6 doesn't lead to a lot of turning as it is... As for the legality of blinding somebody in Ket, I would think that, because it's a permanent affect, it would probably get me in trouble. And yes, there are better Open spells that create the same effect, I get something NONC for the character, and Awaken Sin would be a great fit. As for feats, I'm not sure I want access to a feat all that badly... at Lvl 3 I'm taking Dwarven Armor Prof (Interlocking plate), and at 6th I'm looking at Extra Smiting. I'll have to get a look at CM sometime, though....
cycloptic_squirrel 02-15-07, 09:52 PM	Cha of 6? So you get one turn attempt a day? That's not likely to be all that useful, whereas if you're a combat cleric you might not run into giants that often, but after looking at the smite ability, I'd definitely take it. What's your con? 16? At third level, it's only +3/+3, but you also get it 4 times a day. I'd say that worth being able to turn once a day. Either that or ask for a keg that floats around you like some obese ion stone. :dancin:
RedKnightofKet 02-15-07, 10:48 PM	Con currently is 17, and will go up to 18 at 4th. But that substitution level stuff (as I have been told by my triad) is not on the list of options. :( Hmmm...... Keg Ion stone.... I like it! :D
solbergb 02-16-07, 03:11 AM	You can't actually let a Special Mission affect the region. Not strictly true. I just wrote one that will tie up a minor plot thread affecting my region as a side-effect of the mission, if all goes well. Special missions are mostly about the characters involved, but that doesn't mean you can't tie it into the regional storylines if it makes sense to do so.