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_m_ 02-04-07, 06:35 PM	ok, so i really should work on my thread names. the point is, im working on a toon called jeramiah, and his inspire courage etc songs are going to be, like, joy to the world.... *grin* newho, the build: (which i imagine is kind of sub par and a bit vanila) Human: 10, 10, 14, 14, 10, 16 buffs cha (and hope for a +1 booster) 1: Bard 2: Marshal 3: Marshal 4: Marshal 5: Bard 6: Bard 7: Warchanter 8: Warchanter 9: Warchanter 10: Warchanter 11: Warchanter 12: Seeker of the Song 13: Seeker of the Song 14: Warchanter 15: Warchanter Feats: Combat Expertise Weapon Focus 'something' Extra Music Force of Personality something else This is my first ever bard build (i build arcane casters.... thats basically it *grin*) so any advice is heaps welcome (be nice though)
Akhamshyy 02-04-07, 10:08 PM	This is my first ever bard build (i build arcane casters.... thats basically it *grin*) so any advice is heaps welcome (be nice though) Hope he doesn't croak before third level.
Mommy was an Orc 02-04-07, 11:17 PM	I think you're trying to overcomplicate a Bard build - Warchanter is nice, but doesn't really use Charisma as a stat - you're basically a Marshal 3/Bard 3 for purposes of Charisma usage. That's not a lot of synergy. And Bard 3 kind of sucks, as you only get 1st level spells out of it.
Lomiat 02-05-07, 12:19 AM	If you want to make a Warchanter, I'd recommend (as Mommy did) that you not focus on Charisma too much. It stops paying out. If you want to make a Bard, I recommend: Bard Marshal Bard (all the way until) Sublime Chord It is, in fact, a highly vanilla build, but it's still good AND fun. Bards are only vanilla, really, if the player can't roleplay it well. Otherwise, no matter how unique a bard build is mathematically, it amounts to a support character that takes the same rote actions in combat. The one Marshal aura is probably either Motivate Dexterity or Motivate Charisma, depending on how you go about your character. You could delay the Marshal level until 4th if you aren't certain which aura better suits your character concept until you've played it longer.
_m_ 02-05-07, 04:52 PM	If you want to make a Warchanter, I'd recommend (as Mommy did) that you not focus on Charisma too much. It stops paying out. If you want to make a Bard, I recommend: Bard Marshal Bard (all the way until) Sublime Chord It is, in fact, a highly vanilla build, but it's still good AND fun. Bards are only vanilla, really, if the player can't roleplay it well. Otherwise, no matter how unique a bard build is mathematically, it amounts to a support character that takes the same rote actions in combat. The one Marshal aura is probably either Motivate Dexterity or Motivate Charisma, depending on how you go about your character. You could delay the Marshal level until 4th if you aren't certain which aura better suits your character concept until you've played it longer. cool. thnx for the advice.
jstorrie 02-05-07, 07:07 PM	Bard / Marshal / Outcast Champion is great. Keep in mind that Outcast Champions have that nifty 'double aid bonuses' ability - allowing you to get stratospheric bonuses when you Motivate Stat and allow the whole party to aid on any particular roll. If you've got Seeker access, you could do Bard 1 / Marshal 5 / Outcast Champion 5 / Seeker of the Song 4?
trollbill 02-06-07, 12:41 PM	Don't forget to take Craft (winemaking).