Occult Slayer Advice [Archive] - Wizards Community

Occult Slayer Advice [Archive] - Wizards Community

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Nagareth
05-13-07, 04:13 PM I need some advice on a good build for an Occult Slayer. I plan on making my weapon bond a composite Longbow so that I can hit casters for damage from a far.

My ideas were:

Half-Orc Barbarian 2/ Fighter 8/ Occult Slayer 5

Starting stats:

Str 18
Dex 14 (17 by level 12)
Con 14
Int 10
Wis 10
Cha 6

or

Human Barbarian 2/ Fighter 8/ Occult Slayer 5

Str 16
Dex 15 (18 by level 12)
Con 14
Int 10
Wis 10
Cha 8

I'm not a player that likes to min-max. I don't mind specializing but the stats like:

Str 20
Dex 10
Con 16
Int 6
Wis 8
Cha 6

Doesn't sit well with me because what I see is a drooling retard who you cannot let out of your eye sight for 2 seconds because he may put his hand in the fire (and this guy is going to go off and fight wizards?!...... hmm)

However I still would like your advice and knowledge. Thank you for your time and I hope to hear from you soon.
Genghis Cohen
05-13-07, 04:54 PM I'd drop the half-orc option for a wood elf. A 12 con and 16 dex seems better to me for an archer than a 14 con and a 14 dex.

I happen to play such an archer, who is now 5th level. Because he's not a front liner, hit points haven't been an issue. I built him before the current LGCS. I was worried about starting with a 16 strength and later going to a 20 with a Belt of Giant Strength because I didn't know if I'd see access to a composite bow with a +5 strength rating.

My stats at 1st level were:
St 18 Dex 16 Con 12 Int 8 Wis 12 Cha 8

If I had to do it over again, I'd probably go:
St 16 Dex 17 Con 12 Int 10 Wis 12 Cha 8

Keep in mind that my build is not going for Occult Slayer, so I'm investing in wisdom for spellcasting (specifically Arrow Mind.)

If I was building an Occult Slayer, I'd go wood elf with something like this:
St 16 Dex 18 Con 12 Int 10 Wis 10 Cha 8

1 Ranger - Track, Point Blank
2. Fighter - Precise Shot
3. Ranger - Rapid Shot, Weapon Focus (Longbow)
4. Fighter - Improved initiative
5. Fighter
6. Occult Slayer - Woodlands Archer
7. Occult Slayer
8. Occult Slayer
9. Occult Slayer - Improved Critical (Longbow)
10. Occult Slayer
11. Fighter - Improved Precise Shot
12. Fighter - Weapon Specialization (Longbow)
13. Fighter - Ranged Weapon Mastery
14. Fighter
15. Fighter - Many Shot, Improved Rapid Shot
Nagareth
05-13-07, 05:12 PM What Skills Should I take? Hide, Move Silently, Listen, and Spot? then of course Knowledge Arcana and Spellcraft.

By the way whats your take on the Occult slayer? Would it just be better to be a full Ranger? I want to be a kick ass Archer
Genghis Cohen
05-13-07, 06:01 PM What Skills Should I take? Hide, Move Silently, Listen, and Spot? then of course Knowledge Arcana and Spellcraft.

By the way whats your take on the Occult slayer? Would it just be better to be a full Ranger? I want to be a kick ass ArcherOccult Slayer is an extremely strong prestige class. Especially at 5th level when you get a permanent Mind Blank spell on yourself. I haven't played an Occult Slayer, so I'm not really qualified to recommend it over straight Ranger, or vice versa. An Occult Slayer archer will be a few feats behind other builds. Also, you should consider either two levels of Order of the Bow or four levels of Ranger (to cast Arrow Mind.) Either of those options drop you back one feat at higer levels, but the ability to shoot and never provoke AoOs is very strong.

If you're taking levels of Ranger, first max out your Spot. Then Listen. After that you pick what skills will compliment your style of play.
Nagareth
05-13-07, 06:17 PM Here's what I got.

Race: Wood Elf
Classes: Ranger 4 / Fighter 4 / Order of the Bow initiate 2 / Occult Slayer 5

Starting stats:

Str 16
Dex 17
Con 12
Int 10
Wis 12
Cha 8

Level 12 Stats:

Str 16
Dex 20
Con 12
Int 10
Wis 12
Cha 8

or

Str 18
Dex 18
Con 12
Int 10
Wis 12
Cha 8
_metz_
05-14-07, 04:30 AM If you are worried about con (and want wisdom 12) go:

Str: 16
Dex: 16 (8 and 12 stat bumps here)
Con: 13 (lvl 4 stat bump)
Int: 10
Wis: 12
Cha: 8

Though Personally I would go:

Str: 16
Dex: 18 (8 and 12 stat bumps here)
Con: 13 (lvl 4 stat bump)
Int: 10
Wis: 8
Cha: 8

Ranger1: Track, Point Blank Shot
Ranger2: Rapid Shot
Fighter3: Weapon Focus: (Comp Longbow) Precise Shot
Level 4: Fighter 2: WF: Composite Longbow
Level 5: Barbarian 1:
Level 6: Pious Templar 1: Extra Rage
Level 7: Pious Templar 2
Level 8: Pious Templar 3: WS: Composite Longbow,
Level 9: BArbarian2: Uncanny Dodge, Improved Initiative
Level 10: Occult Slayer1
Level 11: Occult Slayer2
Level 12: Pious Templar 4: Improved Precise Shot,Ranged Weapon Mastery(Piercing)
Level 13: Occult Slayer3
Level 14: Occult Slayer4
Level 15: Occult Slayer5 Reckless Rage?

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Nagareth 05-13-07, 04:13 PM	I need some advice on a good build for an Occult Slayer. I plan on making my weapon bond a composite Longbow so that I can hit casters for damage from a far. My ideas were: Half-Orc Barbarian 2/ Fighter 8/ Occult Slayer 5 Starting stats: Str 18 Dex 14 (17 by level 12) Con 14 Int 10 Wis 10 Cha 6 or Human Barbarian 2/ Fighter 8/ Occult Slayer 5 Str 16 Dex 15 (18 by level 12) Con 14 Int 10 Wis 10 Cha 8 I'm not a player that likes to min-max. I don't mind specializing but the stats like: Str 20 Dex 10 Con 16 Int 6 Wis 8 Cha 6 Doesn't sit well with me because what I see is a drooling retard who you cannot let out of your eye sight for 2 seconds because he may put his hand in the fire (and this guy is going to go off and fight wizards?!...... hmm) However I still would like your advice and knowledge. Thank you for your time and I hope to hear from you soon.
Genghis Cohen 05-13-07, 04:54 PM	I'd drop the half-orc option for a wood elf. A 12 con and 16 dex seems better to me for an archer than a 14 con and a 14 dex. I happen to play such an archer, who is now 5th level. Because he's not a front liner, hit points haven't been an issue. I built him before the current LGCS. I was worried about starting with a 16 strength and later going to a 20 with a Belt of Giant Strength because I didn't know if I'd see access to a composite bow with a +5 strength rating. My stats at 1st level were: St 18 Dex 16 Con 12 Int 8 Wis 12 Cha 8 If I had to do it over again, I'd probably go: St 16 Dex 17 Con 12 Int 10 Wis 12 Cha 8 Keep in mind that my build is not going for Occult Slayer, so I'm investing in wisdom for spellcasting (specifically Arrow Mind.) If I was building an Occult Slayer, I'd go wood elf with something like this: St 16 Dex 18 Con 12 Int 10 Wis 10 Cha 8 1 Ranger - Track, Point Blank 2. Fighter - Precise Shot 3. Ranger - Rapid Shot, Weapon Focus (Longbow) 4. Fighter - Improved initiative 5. Fighter 6. Occult Slayer - Woodlands Archer 7. Occult Slayer 8. Occult Slayer 9. Occult Slayer - Improved Critical (Longbow) 10. Occult Slayer 11. Fighter - Improved Precise Shot 12. Fighter - Weapon Specialization (Longbow) 13. Fighter - Ranged Weapon Mastery 14. Fighter 15. Fighter - Many Shot, Improved Rapid Shot
Nagareth 05-13-07, 05:12 PM	What Skills Should I take? Hide, Move Silently, Listen, and Spot? then of course Knowledge Arcana and Spellcraft. By the way whats your take on the Occult slayer? Would it just be better to be a full Ranger? I want to be a kick ass Archer
Genghis Cohen 05-13-07, 06:01 PM	What Skills Should I take? Hide, Move Silently, Listen, and Spot? then of course Knowledge Arcana and Spellcraft. By the way whats your take on the Occult slayer? Would it just be better to be a full Ranger? I want to be a kick ass ArcherOccult Slayer is an extremely strong prestige class. Especially at 5th level when you get a permanent Mind Blank spell on yourself. I haven't played an Occult Slayer, so I'm not really qualified to recommend it over straight Ranger, or vice versa. An Occult Slayer archer will be a few feats behind other builds. Also, you should consider either two levels of Order of the Bow or four levels of Ranger (to cast Arrow Mind.) Either of those options drop you back one feat at higer levels, but the ability to shoot and never provoke AoOs is very strong. If you're taking levels of Ranger, first max out your Spot. Then Listen. After that you pick what skills will compliment your style of play.
Nagareth 05-13-07, 06:17 PM	Here's what I got. Race: Wood Elf Classes: Ranger 4 / Fighter 4 / Order of the Bow initiate 2 / Occult Slayer 5 Starting stats: Str 16 Dex 17 Con 12 Int 10 Wis 12 Cha 8 Level 12 Stats: Str 16 Dex 20 Con 12 Int 10 Wis 12 Cha 8 or Str 18 Dex 18 Con 12 Int 10 Wis 12 Cha 8
_metz_ 05-14-07, 04:30 AM	If you are worried about con (and want wisdom 12) go: Str: 16 Dex: 16 (8 and 12 stat bumps here) Con: 13 (lvl 4 stat bump) Int: 10 Wis: 12 Cha: 8 Though Personally I would go: Str: 16 Dex: 18 (8 and 12 stat bumps here) Con: 13 (lvl 4 stat bump) Int: 10 Wis: 8 Cha: 8 Ranger1: Track, Point Blank Shot Ranger2: Rapid Shot Fighter3: Weapon Focus: (Comp Longbow) Precise Shot Level 4: Fighter 2: WF: Composite Longbow Level 5: Barbarian 1: Level 6: Pious Templar 1: Extra Rage Level 7: Pious Templar 2 Level 8: Pious Templar 3: WS: Composite Longbow, Level 9: BArbarian2: Uncanny Dodge, Improved Initiative Level 10: Occult Slayer1 Level 11: Occult Slayer2 Level 12: Pious Templar 4: Improved Precise Shot,Ranged Weapon Mastery(Piercing) Level 13: Occult Slayer3 Level 14: Occult Slayer4 Level 15: Occult Slayer5 Reckless Rage?