Paladin of Rao and the Serenity Feat [Archive] - Wizards Community

Paladin of Rao and the Serenity Feat [Archive] - Wizards Community

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Kelios_Lyonsmane
08-17-07, 12:23 PM I was Planing on making a Human Paladin/Favored soul when i saw the feat Serenity in a Dragon Magasin ( #306 April 2003 ) : As a Paladin of Rao use your Wis instead of you cha for your paladin ability's ( Lay on hands , divine grace , turn undead , smite ... ) need Divine Gace and Paladin of Rao as a prerequisites . I looked in the LGCS and nowhere does it say Closed or Open , Could someone tell if it IS legal ?
I was Thinking of playing him Vulcan like .

As a Paladin of Rao my stats would be :

Str: 14
Dex:10
Con:14
Int: 12
Wis:16
Cha: 8

I MAY take cleric lvls .

As a Paladin/Favored soul ( Pelor or Heronius not sure yet )

Str: 14
Dex: 12
con:14
Int:12
Wis:10
Cha:14

Int 12 to get 4 skill points per lvl to get concentration , Diplo , sence motive maxed out and Knowlage religion and spellcraft half/half

Also if Serenity isint legal any Prestige classe you would recomand for a Paladin/Favored soul would be apreciated .

P.S. This is for ruins of Greyhawk and so far We have a Dwarven Cleric confirmed
TWG_Prometheus
08-17-07, 12:37 PM You need access (usually from an Adventure Record) for anything that is not on the Open list or on the Closed list. You may see this group of rules items referred to by an unofficial label of NONC. (Non-Open, Non-Closed)

I wouldn't plan on getting Serenity, although there might be ways to obtain it such as a special mission. Possibly.
Hariman
08-17-07, 04:35 PM You need access (usually from an Adventure Record) for anything that is not on the Open list or on the Closed list. You may see this group of rules items referred to by an unofficial label of NONC. (Non-Open, Non-Closed)

I wouldn't plan on getting Serenity, although there might be ways to obtain it such as a special mission. Possibly.

I doubt that Serenity will be allowed, even by special mission.

It's from Dragon Magazine, and Dragon Magazine isn't really official WOTC product. It was a Paizo Publication.

So I don't think that Serenity will be allowed in LG at all. That is, unless it gets reprinted in an official WOTC book.
CdrcJsn
08-17-07, 06:15 PM I doubt that Serenity will be allowed, even by special mission.

It's from Dragon Magazine, and Dragon Magazine isn't really official WOTC product. It was a Paizo Publication.

So I don't think that Serenity will be allowed in LG at all. That is, unless it gets reprinted in an official WOTC book.

Why not? We have tons of open feats from Dragon Magazine (all the regional feats for example). I also know of at least one region (shield lands?) that is allowing the dragon magazine feat Blinding Wrath (pholtan, spend a turn check to blind outsiders or undead) in a metaorg.

They just reprinted the effects of the feat in their metaorg doc.
Hariman
08-18-07, 12:15 PM Why not? We have tons of open feats from Dragon Magazine (all the regional feats for example). I also know of at least one region (shield lands?) that is allowing the dragon magazine feat Blinding Wrath (pholtan, spend a turn check to blind outsiders or undead) in a metaorg.

They just reprinted the effects of the feat in their metaorg doc.

Well, those feats are specific regional feats designed to mesh with the Greyhawk Campaign setting.

If your triad is a little more open with Dragon Magazine material than I expected, then go ahead and ask your Triad. The worst they can say is "No".
boolean
08-19-07, 08:34 AM Those two articles are LG-allowed sources. This isn't just a generic Dragon article, it's a Living Greyhawk Journal article in Polyhedron, the RPGA magazine, which was printed in Dragon at the time. (The other article was in Dungeon #105. Polyhedron moved around a few times before it was canceled.)
Kelios_Lyonsmane
08-21-07, 11:36 AM Those two articles are LG-allowed sources. This isn't just a generic Dragon article, it's a Living Greyhawk Journal article in Polyhedron, the RPGA magazine, which was printed in Dragon at the time. (The other article was in Dungeon #105. Polyhedron moved around a few times before it was canceled.)

But does that mean i need acces or not ?

On the other hand with LG going down in 2008 ... Whats the point ?
Fakegoatee
08-21-07, 10:43 PM But does that mean i need acces or not ?

You need campaign documentation for access to *anything*. The LGCS is campaign documentation giving you access to whatever it lists as open. If it ain't on the list, you need some other form of documentation.

If it's listed as closed, that just means you're guaranteed never to get access. But don't think that closed list is comprehensive. They couldn't possibly list all the 3rd part material you aren't allowed to use.
Evanta
08-30-07, 01:50 AM I don't think there's a need for a pal 4/fs X to PRC, just level up on favored soul the rest of the way. You're a front-line with some pre-buffing or after-combat healing capability.

Remember to get weapon focus at pal 1, when you hit favored soul 3, you can change it for a different feat.
Mattastrophic
09-05-07, 07:29 PM If your triad is a little more open with Dragon Magazine material than I expected, then go ahead and ask your Triad. The worst they can say is "No".

Hey Cedric...

If I come to Winter Weekend in the Pale, can I do a mission for something cool? Pleeeeease?

Hehehe...

-Matt
mowaca
09-10-07, 10:58 PM I judged a group and one of the characters had the serenity feat, he showed me the AR. It was from a long time ago - before my time.

If you can convince your triad to create a special mission for you, go for it!

- Kirk
CdrcJsn
09-11-07, 01:11 PM Hey Cedric...

If I come to Winter Weekend in the Pale, can I do a mission for something cool? Pleeeeease?

Hehehe...

-Matt

Sorry Matt, Special Missions are considered Pale regionals, and being that you are a Triad for the Pale, you are unable to play one of your characters in one.

Sorry.

Cedric
Mattastrophic
09-11-07, 05:34 PM Hehehe... wrong Matt. I'm actually just another guy from Oregon who randomly shows up at Pale cons from time to time.

-Matt
CdrcJsn
09-13-07, 01:39 AM Hehehe... wrong Matt. I'm actually just another guy from Oregon who randomly shows up at Pale cons from time to time.

-Matt

Doh! :D

All this time I thought you were Matt Thompson. Haha.

Special Mission requests are available by filling out a form. It's available via the Pale website http://www.theocracyofthepale.com

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Kelios_Lyonsmane 08-17-07, 12:23 PM	I was Planing on making a Human Paladin/Favored soul when i saw the feat Serenity in a Dragon Magasin ( #306 April 2003 ) : As a Paladin of Rao use your Wis instead of you cha for your paladin ability's ( Lay on hands , divine grace , turn undead , smite ... ) need Divine Gace and Paladin of Rao as a prerequisites . I looked in the LGCS and nowhere does it say Closed or Open , Could someone tell if it IS legal ? I was Thinking of playing him Vulcan like . As a Paladin of Rao my stats would be : Str: 14 Dex:10 Con:14 Int: 12 Wis:16 Cha: 8 I MAY take cleric lvls . As a Paladin/Favored soul ( Pelor or Heronius not sure yet ) Str: 14 Dex: 12 con:14 Int:12 Wis:10 Cha:14 Int 12 to get 4 skill points per lvl to get concentration , Diplo , sence motive maxed out and Knowlage religion and spellcraft half/half Also if Serenity isint legal any Prestige classe you would recomand for a Paladin/Favored soul would be apreciated . P.S. This is for ruins of Greyhawk and so far We have a Dwarven Cleric confirmed
TWG_Prometheus 08-17-07, 12:37 PM	You need access (usually from an Adventure Record) for anything that is not on the Open list or on the Closed list. You may see this group of rules items referred to by an unofficial label of NONC. (Non-Open, Non-Closed) I wouldn't plan on getting Serenity, although there might be ways to obtain it such as a special mission. Possibly.
Hariman 08-17-07, 04:35 PM	You need access (usually from an Adventure Record) for anything that is not on the Open list or on the Closed list. You may see this group of rules items referred to by an unofficial label of NONC. (Non-Open, Non-Closed) I wouldn't plan on getting Serenity, although there might be ways to obtain it such as a special mission. Possibly. I doubt that Serenity will be allowed, even by special mission. It's from Dragon Magazine, and Dragon Magazine isn't really official WOTC product. It was a Paizo Publication. So I don't think that Serenity will be allowed in LG at all. That is, unless it gets reprinted in an official WOTC book.
CdrcJsn 08-17-07, 06:15 PM	I doubt that Serenity will be allowed, even by special mission. It's from Dragon Magazine, and Dragon Magazine isn't really official WOTC product. It was a Paizo Publication. So I don't think that Serenity will be allowed in LG at all. That is, unless it gets reprinted in an official WOTC book. Why not? We have tons of open feats from Dragon Magazine (all the regional feats for example). I also know of at least one region (shield lands?) that is allowing the dragon magazine feat Blinding Wrath (pholtan, spend a turn check to blind outsiders or undead) in a metaorg. They just reprinted the effects of the feat in their metaorg doc.
Hariman 08-18-07, 12:15 PM	Why not? We have tons of open feats from Dragon Magazine (all the regional feats for example). I also know of at least one region (shield lands?) that is allowing the dragon magazine feat Blinding Wrath (pholtan, spend a turn check to blind outsiders or undead) in a metaorg. They just reprinted the effects of the feat in their metaorg doc. Well, those feats are specific regional feats designed to mesh with the Greyhawk Campaign setting. If your triad is a little more open with Dragon Magazine material than I expected, then go ahead and ask your Triad. The worst they can say is "No".
boolean 08-19-07, 08:34 AM	Those two articles are LG-allowed sources. This isn't just a generic Dragon article, it's a Living Greyhawk Journal article in Polyhedron, the RPGA magazine, which was printed in Dragon at the time. (The other article was in Dungeon #105. Polyhedron moved around a few times before it was canceled.)
Kelios_Lyonsmane 08-21-07, 11:36 AM	Those two articles are LG-allowed sources. This isn't just a generic Dragon article, it's a Living Greyhawk Journal article in Polyhedron, the RPGA magazine, which was printed in Dragon at the time. (The other article was in Dungeon #105. Polyhedron moved around a few times before it was canceled.) But does that mean i need acces or not ? On the other hand with LG going down in 2008 ... Whats the point ?
Fakegoatee 08-21-07, 10:43 PM	But does that mean i need acces or not ? You need campaign documentation for access to anything. The LGCS is campaign documentation giving you access to whatever it lists as open. If it ain't on the list, you need some other form of documentation. If it's listed as closed, that just means you're guaranteed never to get access. But don't think that closed list is comprehensive. They couldn't possibly list all the 3rd part material you aren't allowed to use.
Evanta 08-30-07, 01:50 AM	I don't think there's a need for a pal 4/fs X to PRC, just level up on favored soul the rest of the way. You're a front-line with some pre-buffing or after-combat healing capability. Remember to get weapon focus at pal 1, when you hit favored soul 3, you can change it for a different feat.
Mattastrophic 09-05-07, 07:29 PM	If your triad is a little more open with Dragon Magazine material than I expected, then go ahead and ask your Triad. The worst they can say is "No". Hey Cedric... If I come to Winter Weekend in the Pale, can I do a mission for something cool? Pleeeeease? Hehehe... -Matt
mowaca 09-10-07, 10:58 PM	I judged a group and one of the characters had the serenity feat, he showed me the AR. It was from a long time ago - before my time. If you can convince your triad to create a special mission for you, go for it! - Kirk
CdrcJsn 09-11-07, 01:11 PM	Hey Cedric... If I come to Winter Weekend in the Pale, can I do a mission for something cool? Pleeeeease? Hehehe... -Matt Sorry Matt, Special Missions are considered Pale regionals, and being that you are a Triad for the Pale, you are unable to play one of your characters in one. Sorry. Cedric
Mattastrophic 09-11-07, 05:34 PM	Hehehe... wrong Matt. I'm actually just another guy from Oregon who randomly shows up at Pale cons from time to time. -Matt
CdrcJsn 09-13-07, 01:39 AM	Hehehe... wrong Matt. I'm actually just another guy from Oregon who randomly shows up at Pale cons from time to time. -Matt Doh! :D All this time I thought you were Matt Thompson. Haha. Special Mission requests are available by filling out a form. It's available via the Pale website http://www.theocracyofthepale.com