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Post/Author/DateTime Post
Kelvane
12-19-06, 12:37 AM Does anybody know if there is a way to play a Shadowcaster?
Arvagor
12-19-06, 12:43 AM Some people received access as a special reward from playing the LG special at GenCon and/or GenCon SoCal, and at least one person on the boards (_m_) gained access that way (at least I think that's how she got it). Whether access is granted in the future remains to be seen, although the shadows have certainly not left Oerth (http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=lg/lgdc/20061212a)...
clannagh
12-19-06, 01:05 AM Some people received access as a special reward from playing the LG special at GenCon and/or GenCon SoCal, and at least one person on the boards (_m_) gained access that way (at least I think that's how she got it). Whether access is granted in the future remains to be seen, although the shadows have certainly not left Oerth (http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=lg/lgdc/20061212a)...

well _m_ gained more than shadowcaster access there was an entire template involved and it was at an aussie con Spring Revel ... but i can say no more as apparently there is possibility this core special will become a mod and there are probably too many spoilers out there already .. people should limit discusion on this one till that is clarified
Arvagor
12-19-06, 01:47 AM Britt can, of course, correct me if I'm wrong, but as I understand it, the expanded premiere of the GenCon special ends at GenCon SoCal, which is why the critical events article was posted (at the link I gave) -- Spring Revel Down Under happened to be one of the expanded premiere venues this year. The Circle has stated previously that the GenCon special is for GenCon and its expanded premieres only, and only the Origins special (if there is one) is ever considered for home-play release...
Britt
12-19-06, 02:45 AM Yep, Dread Spiral is retired; the GC Special is for GC, GC SoCal, GC Europe, and the Expanded Premieres.
_m_
12-19-06, 05:10 PM yes, i play a shadowcaster with a dark template. he's got a fair chunk of other levels too :D

i dont know if there are any more of us.

but this shadow plane rift (IM HOME!) in ye olde vale looks interesting.

i know a few others got access, but as far as i can tell, noone else was able to take advantage of it.
Arvagor
12-19-06, 08:17 PM And my rogue rec'd the dark template as well -- yay! for +13 to my Hide checks with 0 ranks in the skill :incog: -- I may have to actually start taking ranks! ;)
_m_
12-19-06, 10:27 PM And my rogue rec'd the dark template as well -- yay! for +13 to my Hide checks with 0 ranks in the skill :incog: -- I may have to actually start taking ranks! ;)

lol yeah, im loving the hide.

with invisibility on and a take 20, my wizard had, with hide in plain sight, a 103 at lvl 9.
Arvagor
12-19-06, 11:05 PM with invisibility on and a take 20, my wizard had, with hide in plain sight, a 103 at lvl 9.
FWIW, I thought I had seen a recent ruling that you cannot, in fact, take 20 on Hide checks, but I can't seem to find anything in the FAQ (perhaps it was a Dragon Sage Advice entry that hasn't made its way into the FAQ yet)...

(And how, pray tell, do you have a +83 on your Hide checks??? I understand +40 from being invisible, if you're not moving, but where does the other +43 come from?)
_m_
12-19-06, 11:29 PM FWIW, I thought I had seen a recent ruling that you cannot, in fact, take 20 on Hide checks, but I can't seem to find anything in the FAQ (perhaps it was a Dragon Sage Advice entry that hasn't made its way into the FAQ yet)...

(And how, pray tell, do you have a +83 on your Hide checks??? I understand +40 from being invisible, if you're not moving, but where does the other +43 come from?)

lol i cant recall off the top of my head, its in another post i threw up, but off the top of my head, and dont quote me on it, i have neither my character nor my books on me:

solid ranks: 12ish
dex: 2
cloak of elven kind: 5
dark template: 12 or 8, cant recall
metaorg thingy gives me 6 i think, including something for being a gnome
5 from a shadow spell

hang on, il go looking for my post.
Kelvane
12-20-06, 12:25 AM Was this access one of the special items one person at the table recieved? I played Dread spiral at gen con Indy and I don't have anything that gives me access to shadowcaster or dark template.
clannagh
12-20-06, 01:02 AM Was this access one of the special items one person at the table recieved? I played Dread spiral at gen con Indy and I don't have anything that gives me access to shadowcaster or dark template.

assuming this mod is now dead and we are not worried about spoilers .. the dark template was from physically touching the pool .. i cannot recall if it was a one person effect I suspect it may have been anybody that touched it

from memory at Spring Revel in Sydney we all got the some sort of shadow access by default it was a seperate cert .. but that may have changed by the time of gencon or may memory may just be fuzzy
clannagh
12-20-06, 01:04 AM lol i cant recall off the top of my head, its in another post i threw up, but off the top of my head, and dont quote me on it, i have neither my character nor my books on me:

solid ranks: 12ish
dex: 2
cloak of elven kind: 5
dark template: 12 or 8, cant recall
metaorg thingy gives me 6 i think, including something for being a gnome
5 from a shadow spell

hang on, il go looking for my post.

yeah but when not flying you are very noisy
CrystalBlue
12-20-06, 01:29 PM I can kind of clarify, and perhaps add to the shadowcasting shadows around here. ^.^

My Wiz 3 played it touched the portal. Anyone that touches it is allowed to get the cert. The cert gave you a choice of getting a +1 on one of your Fundemental's for the Shadowcaster class OR you can take the shadow template that gave you a +10 move, 10 cold resistance, +8 to Hide and +6 to move silently. However, it does suck up a level (sigh).

The second thing you have to do, to actually get access to Shadowcaster and crafting the shadowcaster equivalent of pearls of power is by reading the book of some deranged lady inside the place. Once you do, BANG, you can now immerse yourself in the darkness of Tharizdun. Congrajamalations. I seem to have done that too. *giggles*

And, to top it all off, you get access to Shadowsilk. It's a suit of leather armor that adds even more bonuses to hide and move silently. And the best part? If you're in shadows, you get NO arcane spell failure.

So now, my Grey-elf wizard Hrug Talibana Blue, IS THE DARKNESS! O.O *ducks for the magic missles* God, I'm gonna love him. He's going Nocturmancer now...duel it up with Illusion spell focus and shadow magic. You will NOT be finding him any time soon. Hehe...
_m_
12-20-06, 05:12 PM I can kind of clarify, and perhaps add to the shadowcasting shadows around here. ^.^

My Wiz 3 played it touched the portal. Anyone that touches it is allowed to get the cert. The cert gave you a choice of getting a +1 on one of your Fundemental's for the Shadowcaster class OR you can take the shadow template that gave you a +10 move, 10 cold resistance, +8 to Hide and +6 to move silently. However, it does suck up a level (sigh).

The second thing you have to do, to actually get access to Shadowcaster and crafting the shadowcaster equivalent of pearls of power is by reading the book of some deranged lady inside the place. Once you do, BANG, you can now immerse yourself in the darkness of Tharizdun. Congrajamalations. I seem to have done that too. *giggles*

And, to top it all off, you get access to Shadowsilk. It's a suit of leather armor that adds even more bonuses to hide and move silently. And the best part? If you're in shadows, you get NO arcane spell failure.

So now, my Grey-elf wizard Hrug Talibana Blue, IS THE DARKNESS! O.O *ducks for the magic missles* God, I'm gonna love him. He's going Nocturmancer now...duel it up with Illusion spell focus and shadow magic. You will NOT be finding him any time soon. Hehe...

indeed, alvin is nocturnmancering it up as well. you may want to look at a 1 dip into master of shadow. it eats a casting level, but damn the pet is cool :D
gomeztoo
12-21-06, 11:35 AM the dark template was from physically touching the pool

Ah, I figured that was it. When Nessie approached the pool (she was given the bottle to poor out), the DM asked if she touched the pool.
She may be insane but she is not stupid... besides she was tasked to poor out the liquid, not play with the pool.
She summoned a shadow though (speaking Tharzidun's name). That was an intersting effect, especially with a PC that actually has no fear at all to speak that name (or that of Vecna or personal enemy Iuz) aloud.
She did get access to shadowcaster, but is unsure if she should go for a level (don't know enough of the class).
Arvagor
12-22-06, 11:50 PM FWIW, I thought I had seen a recent ruling that you cannot, in fact, take 20 on Hide checks, but I can't seem to find anything in the FAQ (perhaps it was a Dragon Sage Advice entry that hasn't made its way into the FAQ yet)...Just FYI, this did show up in the latest FAQ, page 21...

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Kelvane 12-19-06, 12:37 AM	Does anybody know if there is a way to play a Shadowcaster?
Arvagor 12-19-06, 12:43 AM	Some people received access as a special reward from playing the LG special at GenCon and/or GenCon SoCal, and at least one person on the boards (_m_) gained access that way (at least I think that's how she got it). Whether access is granted in the future remains to be seen, although the shadows have certainly not left Oerth (http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=lg/lgdc/20061212a)...
clannagh 12-19-06, 01:05 AM	Some people received access as a special reward from playing the LG special at GenCon and/or GenCon SoCal, and at least one person on the boards (_m_) gained access that way (at least I think that's how she got it). Whether access is granted in the future remains to be seen, although the shadows have certainly not left Oerth (http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=lg/lgdc/20061212a)... well _m_ gained more than shadowcaster access there was an entire template involved and it was at an aussie con Spring Revel ... but i can say no more as apparently there is possibility this core special will become a mod and there are probably too many spoilers out there already .. people should limit discusion on this one till that is clarified
Arvagor 12-19-06, 01:47 AM	Britt can, of course, correct me if I'm wrong, but as I understand it, the expanded premiere of the GenCon special ends at GenCon SoCal, which is why the critical events article was posted (at the link I gave) -- Spring Revel Down Under happened to be one of the expanded premiere venues this year. The Circle has stated previously that the GenCon special is for GenCon and its expanded premieres only, and only the Origins special (if there is one) is ever considered for home-play release...
Britt 12-19-06, 02:45 AM	Yep, Dread Spiral is retired; the GC Special is for GC, GC SoCal, GC Europe, and the Expanded Premieres.
_m_ 12-19-06, 05:10 PM	yes, i play a shadowcaster with a dark template. he's got a fair chunk of other levels too :D i dont know if there are any more of us. but this shadow plane rift (IM HOME!) in ye olde vale looks interesting. i know a few others got access, but as far as i can tell, noone else was able to take advantage of it.
Arvagor 12-19-06, 08:17 PM	And my rogue rec'd the dark template as well -- yay! for +13 to my Hide checks with 0 ranks in the skill :incog: -- I may have to actually start taking ranks! ;)
_m_ 12-19-06, 10:27 PM	And my rogue rec'd the dark template as well -- yay! for +13 to my Hide checks with 0 ranks in the skill :incog: -- I may have to actually start taking ranks! ;) lol yeah, im loving the hide. with invisibility on and a take 20, my wizard had, with hide in plain sight, a 103 at lvl 9.
Arvagor 12-19-06, 11:05 PM	with invisibility on and a take 20, my wizard had, with hide in plain sight, a 103 at lvl 9. FWIW, I thought I had seen a recent ruling that you cannot, in fact, take 20 on Hide checks, but I can't seem to find anything in the FAQ (perhaps it was a Dragon Sage Advice entry that hasn't made its way into the FAQ yet)... (And how, pray tell, do you have a +83 on your Hide checks??? I understand +40 from being invisible, if you're not moving, but where does the other +43 come from?)
_m_ 12-19-06, 11:29 PM	FWIW, I thought I had seen a recent ruling that you cannot, in fact, take 20 on Hide checks, but I can't seem to find anything in the FAQ (perhaps it was a Dragon Sage Advice entry that hasn't made its way into the FAQ yet)... (And how, pray tell, do you have a +83 on your Hide checks??? I understand +40 from being invisible, if you're not moving, but where does the other +43 come from?) lol i cant recall off the top of my head, its in another post i threw up, but off the top of my head, and dont quote me on it, i have neither my character nor my books on me: solid ranks: 12ish dex: 2 cloak of elven kind: 5 dark template: 12 or 8, cant recall metaorg thingy gives me 6 i think, including something for being a gnome 5 from a shadow spell hang on, il go looking for my post.
Kelvane 12-20-06, 12:25 AM	Was this access one of the special items one person at the table recieved? I played Dread spiral at gen con Indy and I don't have anything that gives me access to shadowcaster or dark template.
clannagh 12-20-06, 01:02 AM	Was this access one of the special items one person at the table recieved? I played Dread spiral at gen con Indy and I don't have anything that gives me access to shadowcaster or dark template. assuming this mod is now dead and we are not worried about spoilers .. the dark template was from physically touching the pool .. i cannot recall if it was a one person effect I suspect it may have been anybody that touched it from memory at Spring Revel in Sydney we all got the some sort of shadow access by default it was a seperate cert .. but that may have changed by the time of gencon or may memory may just be fuzzy
clannagh 12-20-06, 01:04 AM	lol i cant recall off the top of my head, its in another post i threw up, but off the top of my head, and dont quote me on it, i have neither my character nor my books on me: solid ranks: 12ish dex: 2 cloak of elven kind: 5 dark template: 12 or 8, cant recall metaorg thingy gives me 6 i think, including something for being a gnome 5 from a shadow spell hang on, il go looking for my post. yeah but when not flying you are very noisy
CrystalBlue 12-20-06, 01:29 PM	I can kind of clarify, and perhaps add to the shadowcasting shadows around here. ^.^ My Wiz 3 played it touched the portal. Anyone that touches it is allowed to get the cert. The cert gave you a choice of getting a +1 on one of your Fundemental's for the Shadowcaster class OR you can take the shadow template that gave you a +10 move, 10 cold resistance, +8 to Hide and +6 to move silently. However, it does suck up a level (sigh). The second thing you have to do, to actually get access to Shadowcaster and crafting the shadowcaster equivalent of pearls of power is by reading the book of some deranged lady inside the place. Once you do, BANG, you can now immerse yourself in the darkness of Tharizdun. Congrajamalations. I seem to have done that too. giggles And, to top it all off, you get access to Shadowsilk. It's a suit of leather armor that adds even more bonuses to hide and move silently. And the best part? If you're in shadows, you get NO arcane spell failure. So now, my Grey-elf wizard Hrug Talibana Blue, IS THE DARKNESS! O.O ducks for the magic missles God, I'm gonna love him. He's going Nocturmancer now...duel it up with Illusion spell focus and shadow magic. You will NOT be finding him any time soon. Hehe...
_m_ 12-20-06, 05:12 PM	I can kind of clarify, and perhaps add to the shadowcasting shadows around here. ^.^ My Wiz 3 played it touched the portal. Anyone that touches it is allowed to get the cert. The cert gave you a choice of getting a +1 on one of your Fundemental's for the Shadowcaster class OR you can take the shadow template that gave you a +10 move, 10 cold resistance, +8 to Hide and +6 to move silently. However, it does suck up a level (sigh). The second thing you have to do, to actually get access to Shadowcaster and crafting the shadowcaster equivalent of pearls of power is by reading the book of some deranged lady inside the place. Once you do, BANG, you can now immerse yourself in the darkness of Tharizdun. Congrajamalations. I seem to have done that too. giggles And, to top it all off, you get access to Shadowsilk. It's a suit of leather armor that adds even more bonuses to hide and move silently. And the best part? If you're in shadows, you get NO arcane spell failure. So now, my Grey-elf wizard Hrug Talibana Blue, IS THE DARKNESS! O.O ducks for the magic missles God, I'm gonna love him. He's going Nocturmancer now...duel it up with Illusion spell focus and shadow magic. You will NOT be finding him any time soon. Hehe... indeed, alvin is nocturnmancering it up as well. you may want to look at a 1 dip into master of shadow. it eats a casting level, but damn the pet is cool :D
gomeztoo 12-21-06, 11:35 AM	the dark template was from physically touching the pool Ah, I figured that was it. When Nessie approached the pool (she was given the bottle to poor out), the DM asked if she touched the pool. She may be insane but she is not stupid... besides she was tasked to poor out the liquid, not play with the pool. She summoned a shadow though (speaking Tharzidun's name). That was an intersting effect, especially with a PC that actually has no fear at all to speak that name (or that of Vecna or personal enemy Iuz) aloud. She did get access to shadowcaster, but is unsure if she should go for a level (don't know enough of the class).
Arvagor 12-22-06, 11:50 PM	FWIW, I thought I had seen a recent ruling that you cannot, in fact, take 20 on Hide checks, but I can't seem to find anything in the FAQ (perhaps it was a Dragon Sage Advice entry that hasn't made its way into the FAQ yet)...Just FYI, this did show up in the latest FAQ, page 21...