Stormlord [Archive] - Wizards Community - Pages Merged by Solauren

Stormlord [Archive] - Wizards Community

Post/Author/DateTime Post
_m_
10-24-06, 01:34 AM Ok im home now, i looked at the bookm and heres the NEW plan :D

human.
deity: something with war domain and javelin favoured weapon

clr1: Endurance. Great Fortitude. Weapon Focus Javelin (domain)
clr2:
clr3: Brutal throw
clr4:
clr5:
sl1: power attack
sl2:
sl3: power throw
sl up to 15.

thoughts? any feats that are more suiting. obviously im planning to have high strength, and throw multiple javelins... maybe 2 levels of fighter, and take precise shot and maybe point blank.

of course i can just whack things in combat with a spear or even twf javelins in theory.

[EDIT: EVERYTHING ABOVE HERE]
Can anyone suggest a decent build for a stormlord.
I was thinking favoured soul 5 stormlord x. i dont have the prereqs handy, but from memory, its 2nd lvl divine spells, and weapon focus javelin spear or trident.

i was thinking human stormlord.
1 fs: w/focus javelin, twf
2:fs:
3:fs: Point Blank Shot
4:fs
5: maybe fighter or ranger, wanting precise shot, that sort of thing.
x stormlord.

maybe fighter / ranger and cleric to get there.

basically aiming towards double throwing a pair of javelins. im aware thats probably not the most practical throwing class, but it struck me as really a hell of alot of fun to play, and was just wondering on the best spec to get a twin throwing javelin stormlord would be, and how many javelins per turn you could get it to throw.
Lupo
10-24-06, 04:11 AM Can anyone suggest a decent build for a stormlord.
I was thinking favoured soul 5 stormlord x. i dont have the prereqs handy, but from memory, its 2nd lvl divine spells, and weapon focus javelin spear or trident.

i was thinking human stormlord.
1 fs: w/focus javelin, twf
2:fs:
3:fs: Point Blank Shot
4:fs
5: maybe fighter or ranger, wanting precise shot, that sort of thing.
x stormlord.

maybe fighter / ranger and cleric to get there.

basically aiming towards double throwing a pair of javelins. im aware thats probably not the most practical throwing class, but it struck me as really a hell of alot of fun to play, and was just wondering on the best spec to get a twin throwing javelin stormlord would be, and how many javelins per turn you could get it to throw.

the problem with stormlord is, the prerequisites are THIRD level divine spells, weapon focus [any spear, javelin or trident] AND endurance and great fortitude.

so a favoured soul needs to be sixth level to qualify, getting first stormlord level at level seven and therefore not getting all ten levels of it till level 15. this in combination with two save boost feats and weapon focus makes it one of the most feat-consuming prestige classes. and LG does't has a deity that gives access to the prestige class AND has the war domain for a free weapon focus.

the easiest way is:

human

cleric 1: great fortitude, endurance
cleric 2:
cleric 3: weapon focus [weapon of the deity]
cleric 4:
cleric 5:
stormlord 6 to 15.

you should try to include at least some feats to boost the stormlord offensive powers, either point blank shot, precise shot and quickdraw or power attack, power critical and improved critical. and craft arms and armor would be really great for a stormlord :)

it is a powerfull prestige class, granting a ninth level spell at level 15, but without a deity that grants the weapon focus for free, it is always a little stressed on feats.

ciao

martin m.
Cynric
10-24-06, 06:03 AM I would be looking at quick draw as soon as you can so you can use the iteratives you get to throw multiple javelines a round.
_m_
10-24-06, 08:28 AM the problem with stormlord is, the prerequisites are THIRD level divine spells, weapon focus [any spear, javelin or trident] AND endurance and great fortitude.

so a favoured soul needs to be sixth level to qualify, getting first stormlord level at level seven and therefore not getting all ten levels of it till level 15. this in combination with two save boost feats and weapon focus makes it one of the most feat-consuming prestige classes. and LG does't has a deity that gives access to the prestige class AND has the war domain for a free weapon focus.

the easiest way is:

human

cleric 1: great fortitude, endurance
cleric 2:
cleric 3: weapon focus [weapon of the deity]
cleric 4:
cleric 5:
stormlord 6 to 15.

you should try to include at least some feats to boost the stormlord offensive powers, either point blank shot, precise shot and quickdraw or power attack, power critical and improved critical. and craft arms and armor would be really great for a stormlord :)

it is a powerfull prestige class, granting a ninth level spell at level 15, but without a deity that grants the weapon focus for free, it is always a little stressed on feats.

ciao

martin m.

yeah i edited my post before you hit this one up :D discovered that mostly myself.

whats the best way i can brutal and power throw, and still throw multiple javelins? quick draw? (thanx cyn)
Lupo
10-24-06, 09:51 AM yeah i edited my post before you hit this one up :D discovered that mostly myself.

whats the best way i can brutal and power throw, and still throw multiple javelins? quick draw? (thanx cyn)

as there is no deity that combines access to stormlord AND war domain with favoured weapon any spear, you either have to stick with the way suboptimal build:

cleric 1: great fortitude, endurance
cleric 2:
cleric 3: weapon focus [weapon of the deity]
cleric 4:
cleric 5:
stormlord 6: choose from: power attack, point blank,
stormlord 7:
stormlord 8:
stormlord 9: choose (according to level 6 choice): brutal throw, precise shot, quick draw
stormlord 10:
stormlord 11:
stormlord 12: choose (according to level 6 choice): power critical, power throw, or any of the not yet taken ones
stormlord 13:
stormlord 14:
stormlord 15: choose (according to level 6 choice): power critical, power throw, or any of the not yet taken ones

getting to the relevant feats much to late, i wouldn't take this route, but just dump the last level(s) of stormlord in favour of some classes that have synergies and provide free feats.

all builds for humans:

ranger 3/cleric 5/stormlord 7 (intermix ranger and cleric levels, just start as ranger for the skill points :))

gets rapid shot and endurance as bonus feats from ranger. freeing up two precious feats and giving rapid shot without the normally needed dex, so good when all stat points go to strength. eats up 3 stormlord AND spellcasting levels :(

cleric 5/ stormlord 4/master thrower 1 then the remaining stormlord levels (master thrower prerequisites: BAB 5, sleight of hand 4 (cross class, consuming 8 skill points), point blank shot, precise shot, weapon focus [thrown weapon].)

gets quick draw for free AND a weapon trick, only eats up one stormlord/spellcasting level, but presets your level 6 and 9 feats.

favoured soul 6/stormlord 2/master thrower 1/remaining stormlord levels

favoured soul three gives you weapon focus for free, therefore freeing up another feat, gets quick draw for free AND a weapon trick, only eats up one stormlord/spellcasting level, but presets your level 3 and 6 feats. has no domain powers and spells and favoured soul spell slot progression.

fighter 2/cleric 5/stormlord 8 (you need some feats a fighter can pick as bonus anyway)

being behind in caster levels is troublesome, you have to look what you get in exchange for it, without a deity that grants free weapon focus for a stormlord i wouldn't go for the class with a full caster or nearly full caster.

ranger 3/fighter 2/pious templar 6/stormlord 4 (templar 6 because it is hard to alocate enough wisdom into the build :)) is a more combat orientated approach, but without the spellpower of a cleric or favoured soul.

ciao

martin m.

edit:

i forgot favoured soul 6/ranger 3/stormlord 6

gets two of the needed feats for free, plus rapid shot, looses three caster levels and has the favoured souls spell progression.
_m_
10-24-06, 06:52 PM thanks for the response. very thorough. i was hoping one of the deitiyss from the list would qualify for the class and have favoured weapon javelin and war domain (youd think a stormlord deity would at the very least have teh fav weapon javelin bit).

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
_m_ 10-24-06, 01:34 AM	Ok im home now, i looked at the bookm and heres the NEW plan :D human. deity: something with war domain and javelin favoured weapon clr1: Endurance. Great Fortitude. Weapon Focus Javelin (domain) clr2: clr3: Brutal throw clr4: clr5: sl1: power attack sl2: sl3: power throw sl up to 15. thoughts? any feats that are more suiting. obviously im planning to have high strength, and throw multiple javelins... maybe 2 levels of fighter, and take precise shot and maybe point blank. of course i can just whack things in combat with a spear or even twf javelins in theory. [EDIT: EVERYTHING ABOVE HERE] Can anyone suggest a decent build for a stormlord. I was thinking favoured soul 5 stormlord x. i dont have the prereqs handy, but from memory, its 2nd lvl divine spells, and weapon focus javelin spear or trident. i was thinking human stormlord. 1 fs: w/focus javelin, twf 2:fs: 3:fs: Point Blank Shot 4:fs 5: maybe fighter or ranger, wanting precise shot, that sort of thing. x stormlord. maybe fighter / ranger and cleric to get there. basically aiming towards double throwing a pair of javelins. im aware thats probably not the most practical throwing class, but it struck me as really a hell of alot of fun to play, and was just wondering on the best spec to get a twin throwing javelin stormlord would be, and how many javelins per turn you could get it to throw.
Lupo 10-24-06, 04:11 AM	Can anyone suggest a decent build for a stormlord. I was thinking favoured soul 5 stormlord x. i dont have the prereqs handy, but from memory, its 2nd lvl divine spells, and weapon focus javelin spear or trident. i was thinking human stormlord. 1 fs: w/focus javelin, twf 2:fs: 3:fs: Point Blank Shot 4:fs 5: maybe fighter or ranger, wanting precise shot, that sort of thing. x stormlord. maybe fighter / ranger and cleric to get there. basically aiming towards double throwing a pair of javelins. im aware thats probably not the most practical throwing class, but it struck me as really a hell of alot of fun to play, and was just wondering on the best spec to get a twin throwing javelin stormlord would be, and how many javelins per turn you could get it to throw. the problem with stormlord is, the prerequisites are THIRD level divine spells, weapon focus [any spear, javelin or trident] AND endurance and great fortitude. so a favoured soul needs to be sixth level to qualify, getting first stormlord level at level seven and therefore not getting all ten levels of it till level 15. this in combination with two save boost feats and weapon focus makes it one of the most feat-consuming prestige classes. and LG does't has a deity that gives access to the prestige class AND has the war domain for a free weapon focus. the easiest way is: human cleric 1: great fortitude, endurance cleric 2: cleric 3: weapon focus [weapon of the deity] cleric 4: cleric 5: stormlord 6 to 15. you should try to include at least some feats to boost the stormlord offensive powers, either point blank shot, precise shot and quickdraw or power attack, power critical and improved critical. and craft arms and armor would be really great for a stormlord :) it is a powerfull prestige class, granting a ninth level spell at level 15, but without a deity that grants the weapon focus for free, it is always a little stressed on feats. ciao martin m.
Cynric 10-24-06, 06:03 AM	I would be looking at quick draw as soon as you can so you can use the iteratives you get to throw multiple javelines a round.
_m_ 10-24-06, 08:28 AM	the problem with stormlord is, the prerequisites are THIRD level divine spells, weapon focus [any spear, javelin or trident] AND endurance and great fortitude. so a favoured soul needs to be sixth level to qualify, getting first stormlord level at level seven and therefore not getting all ten levels of it till level 15. this in combination with two save boost feats and weapon focus makes it one of the most feat-consuming prestige classes. and LG does't has a deity that gives access to the prestige class AND has the war domain for a free weapon focus. the easiest way is: human cleric 1: great fortitude, endurance cleric 2: cleric 3: weapon focus [weapon of the deity] cleric 4: cleric 5: stormlord 6 to 15. you should try to include at least some feats to boost the stormlord offensive powers, either point blank shot, precise shot and quickdraw or power attack, power critical and improved critical. and craft arms and armor would be really great for a stormlord :) it is a powerfull prestige class, granting a ninth level spell at level 15, but without a deity that grants the weapon focus for free, it is always a little stressed on feats. ciao martin m. yeah i edited my post before you hit this one up :D discovered that mostly myself. whats the best way i can brutal and power throw, and still throw multiple javelins? quick draw? (thanx cyn)
Lupo 10-24-06, 09:51 AM	yeah i edited my post before you hit this one up :D discovered that mostly myself. whats the best way i can brutal and power throw, and still throw multiple javelins? quick draw? (thanx cyn) as there is no deity that combines access to stormlord AND war domain with favoured weapon any spear, you either have to stick with the way suboptimal build: cleric 1: great fortitude, endurance cleric 2: cleric 3: weapon focus [weapon of the deity] cleric 4: cleric 5: stormlord 6: choose from: power attack, point blank, stormlord 7: stormlord 8: stormlord 9: choose (according to level 6 choice): brutal throw, precise shot, quick draw stormlord 10: stormlord 11: stormlord 12: choose (according to level 6 choice): power critical, power throw, or any of the not yet taken ones stormlord 13: stormlord 14: stormlord 15: choose (according to level 6 choice): power critical, power throw, or any of the not yet taken ones getting to the relevant feats much to late, i wouldn't take this route, but just dump the last level(s) of stormlord in favour of some classes that have synergies and provide free feats. all builds for humans: ranger 3/cleric 5/stormlord 7 (intermix ranger and cleric levels, just start as ranger for the skill points :)) gets rapid shot and endurance as bonus feats from ranger. freeing up two precious feats and giving rapid shot without the normally needed dex, so good when all stat points go to strength. eats up 3 stormlord AND spellcasting levels :( cleric 5/ stormlord 4/master thrower 1 then the remaining stormlord levels (master thrower prerequisites: BAB 5, sleight of hand 4 (cross class, consuming 8 skill points), point blank shot, precise shot, weapon focus [thrown weapon].) gets quick draw for free AND a weapon trick, only eats up one stormlord/spellcasting level, but presets your level 6 and 9 feats. favoured soul 6/stormlord 2/master thrower 1/remaining stormlord levels favoured soul three gives you weapon focus for free, therefore freeing up another feat, gets quick draw for free AND a weapon trick, only eats up one stormlord/spellcasting level, but presets your level 3 and 6 feats. has no domain powers and spells and favoured soul spell slot progression. fighter 2/cleric 5/stormlord 8 (you need some feats a fighter can pick as bonus anyway) being behind in caster levels is troublesome, you have to look what you get in exchange for it, without a deity that grants free weapon focus for a stormlord i wouldn't go for the class with a full caster or nearly full caster. ranger 3/fighter 2/pious templar 6/stormlord 4 (templar 6 because it is hard to alocate enough wisdom into the build :)) is a more combat orientated approach, but without the spellpower of a cleric or favoured soul. ciao martin m. edit: i forgot favoured soul 6/ranger 3/stormlord 6 gets two of the needed feats for free, plus rapid shot, looses three caster levels and has the favoured souls spell progression.
_m_ 10-24-06, 06:52 PM	thanks for the response. very thorough. i was hoping one of the deitiyss from the list would qualify for the class and have favoured weapon javelin and war domain (youd think a stormlord deity would at the very least have teh fav weapon javelin bit).