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kjenks 03-30-06, 07:50 AM	My character has AR access to some Defenders of the Faith and Tome and Blood spells that are "Not yet revised" for 3.5e. Are they still legal in the campaign? FYI, here's the "Feats, Prestige Classes, and Spells" Rules Reference: http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/dnd/20050110x The spells are: Defenders of the Faith Curse of the Brute Divine Flame Divine Zephyr Knife Spray Tome and Blood Choke Filter Gaze Screen Indifference
Mortepierre 03-30-06, 10:09 AM	Based on the 595 CY conversion file, I would say "no" given if you had items based on spells which do not exist anymore (because they haven't been updated), you were supposed to sell them for what they cost you or - if they had been regionals - contact your triad to see what should be done. So, spells themselves should presumably be treated the same way. No update, no spell.
qstor 03-30-06, 11:01 AM	Based on the 595 CY conversion file, I would say "no" given if you had items based on spells which do not exist anymore (because they haven't been updated), you were supposed to sell them for what they cost you or - if they had been regionals - contact your triad to see what should be done. So, spells themselves should presumably be treated the same way. No update, no spell. I would agree based on prior postings from the Circle and information in the prior version of the LGCS that the books aren't being used in LG anymore. Mike
redgamer 03-30-06, 05:01 PM	Does the ar say you gain access to spells "not yet revised" or is that your wording?
kjenks 03-30-06, 08:42 PM	PAL3-03 Shield of Faith === Access to one of the benefits listed below. Cross off both when used: Access to the libraries of the Church of the One True Path: This allows the character to choose any one spell of first to third level from the builder book, Defenders of the Faith Or Access to the libraries of the Arcanists Guild: This allows the character to choose any one spell of first to third level from the builder book, Tome and Blood === I figured out the spell list above by finding the DoF and T&B spells that are not listed in the PH or SpC.
gog 03-31-06, 10:13 AM	PAL3-03 Shield of Faith === Access to one of the benefits listed below. Cross off both when used: Access to the libraries of the Church of the One True Path: This allows the character to choose any one spell of first to third level from the builder book, Defenders of the Faith Or Access to the libraries of the Arcanists Guild: This allows the character to choose any one spell of first to third level from the builder book, Tome and Blood === I figured out the spell list above by finding the DoF and T&B spells that are not listed in the PH or SpC. Well since those books are no longer legal in LG I would have to say that your just out of luck with getting any spell from them now. Lance W. Pale Triad p.O.C.
kjenks 03-31-06, 01:23 PM	Well since those books are no longer legal in LG I would have to say that your just out of luck with getting any spell from them now. Lance W. Pale Triad p.O.C. Ah, well. My sorceress is pushing 14th, and she'll soon get Limited Wish. So I'm going through all of her old ARs, looking for goofy spells she's had access to along the way, so she can use Limited Wish to cast those spells. Here's my current list of juicy-looking Core spell candidates for Limited Wish: Animal Growth Anticipate Teleportation, Greater Antimagic Field Arc of Lightning Baleful Polymorph Bear’s Endurance, Mass Blessing of Bahamut Bigby's Forceful Hand Blink, Greater Blizzard Brilliant Blade Bull’s Strength, Mass Cat’s Grace, Mass Chain Lightning Charm Person, Mass Cloudkill Commune Cone of Cold Confusion Cure Critical Wounds Cure Light Wounds, Mass Dance of the Unicorn Daylight Death Ward Delay Death Dismissal Dispel Magic, Greater Divine Agility Divine Insight Duelward Fear Fireburst, Greater Fly, Mass Foebane Freedom of Movement Freezing Fog Globe of Invulnerability Harmonic Chorus Heroism, Greater Hymn of Praise Implacable Pursuer Last Breath Magic Fang, Greater Magic Jar Magic Weapon, Greater Mind Fog Mislead Murderous Mist Neutralize Poison Nightstalker’s Transformation Owl’s Wisdom, Mass Permanent Image Plane Shift Polymorph Programmed Image Project Image Protection from Desiccation Reciprocal Gyre Recitation Reduce Person, Mass Rejuvenation Cocoon Repair Critical Damage Restoration Resurgence, Mass Righteous Wrath of the Faithful Rusting Grasp Sign of Sealing, Greater Silence Skin of the Cactus Spell Immunity Spiritwall Stalwart Pact Stoneskin Stone to Flesh Subvert Planar Essence Summon Monster VI Summon Nature’s Ally Symbol of Fear Telekinesis Transmute Rock to Mud True Seeing Unearthly Heat Vigor, Greater Vigor, Mass Lesser Wail of Doom Wall of Fire Wall of Force Wall of Stone Wall of Thorns Waves of Fatigue I included all Core spells (from the LGCS) and domain spells from Core domains. I left off Greater Invis because I can do Mislead (and because my sorceress can already cast Greater Invis). I left off most damaging spells because, with metamagic, I already have better uses for a level 7 spell slot. Have I missed any really good ones? My character also has access to these from various ARs: Aid, Legion's Align Fang, Legion's Align Weapon, Legion's Conviction, Legion's Curse of Impending Blades, Legion's Curse of Ill Fortune, Mass (Formerly Curse of Petty Failing, Legion's) Shield of Faith, Legion's Snake's Swiftness, Legion's Undeniable Gravity, Legion's