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Rerednaw

10-20-06, 11:20 AM
Player starts as a monk. Later on, he decides he wants to take levels in barbarian.

How do you adjucate alignment shifts? Not allowed? Specific AR? Special events?
DuctShuiTengu

10-20-06, 02:11 PM
Unless you're a Dragon Disciple, you're allowed to change alignments between mods, unless you have an affect going that specificly prevents it. However, you're still subject to any alignment restrictions imposed by classes, feats, etc. (though most of those are set up as "you lose the benefits of X class if you shift away from Y alignment") and you may not play evil characters. (so if your character becomes evil, you lose the character.)
Howie23

10-20-06, 03:21 PM
Unless you're a Dragon Disciple, you're allowed to change alignments between mods, unless you have an affect going that specificly prevents it. However, you're still subject to any alignment restrictions imposed by classes, feats, etc. (though most of those are set up as "you lose the benefits of X class if you shift away from Y alignment") and you may not play evil characters. (so if your character becomes evil, you lose the character.)

There is also the option of Atonement if you would prefer to have an in-game reason for alignment changes.

David
clik_ml

10-20-06, 09:37 PM
Go for it.

Monks and bards are two of the alignment restricted classes that can freely change alignment out of their class and keep all their abilities... just can't advance normally any more in those classes afterwards.

The only hard to alignment shift classes are the ones noted already, dragon disciples and divine casters (and probably a couple other obsure ones, but hey). Divine casters will need an Atonement to keep their divinishness. All others need not use the spell.

Some folks may sneer at a monk barbarian since they know you changed alignment once, but boo on them. I hate the alignment restrictions for bards, monks and barbarians since there are plenty of sources for characters who go against those alignment stereotypes while remaining in those classes. Those alignment restrictions are just clunk that can get in the way of roleplay and I applaud anyone who wants to work around it.
clannagh

10-21-06, 10:55 PM
Go for it.

Monks and bards are two of the alignment restricted classes that can freely change alignment out of their class and keep all their abilities... just can't advance normally any more in those classes afterwards.

The only hard to alignment shift classes are the ones noted already, dragon disciples and divine casters (and probably a couple other obsure ones, but hey). Divine casters will need an Atonement to keep their divinishness. All others need not use the spell.

Some folks may sneer at a monk barbarian since they know you changed alignment once, but boo on them. I hate the alignment restrictions for bards, monks and barbarians since there are plenty of sources for characters who go against those alignment stereotypes while remaining in those classes. Those alignment restrictions are just clunk that can get in the way of roleplay and I applaud anyone who wants to work around it.

Paladin/Black Paladin would be worse .. two alignment shifts :)

*wonders if you would get double charisma to saves*
gomeztoo

10-22-06, 06:05 AM
Clericls actually can change alignment. Depends on the alignment whether they loose powers, but they can if they choose to.
The restriction on dragon disciples keeing their alignment is very strange, quite against how the core rules handle alignment.
I would prefer to have it removed or replaced (i.e. with a rule that says if you change alignment, you cannot progress further, like a monk, or you loose abilities, like a paladin).
qstor

10-25-06, 04:25 PM
and you may not play evil characters. (so if your character becomes evil, you lose the character.)


I judged a mod once in Year 2 where the player had Neutral Evil written down as his alignment.

Mike
Jay_Ibero_911

10-28-06, 08:51 PM
As far as Dragon Disciple is concerned, I guess the reason for it is that without the appropriate alignment, you wouldn't have the commitment necessary to advance your powers as that type of half-dragon...And that if you haven't been that allignment for an apporpriate ammount of time, you similarly must lack the necessary devotion to your draconic heritage...
gomeztoo

10-29-06, 10:33 AM
And that is different from being a paladin how?
ShinAkuma2

10-30-06, 01:26 AM
And that is different from being a paladin how?

Being a Paladin is something you choose to do or not do.

You don't choose to have a dragon as an ancestor.
gomeztoo

11-09-06, 09:09 AM
You choose to take a level in dragon disciple (or not) though.
And the dragon ancestry determining your alignment is dumb - it is a LGCS rule, not a Core rule. You could as well say that all elf PCS should be CG, or all halflings LG.