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jokem 09-10-06, 11:38 PM	Do the spells from this count against the spells per day? Do the spells for this count against the spells known? The feat says you can learn them as normal for your class, that suggests, but does not state explicitly, that they count against the total number of spells known. It also says you can prepare (or cast without preparation for casters which do that) one of these spells per level, but it does not say if it counts against the number of spells per day. The reason I ask this is domain spells give bonus spells to clerics and provide access to spells they otherwise would not be able to have. So I suggest this might provide something similar to arcanists... bonus spells per day and and extra spells known. The resaon I say it is there are some domains which might not provide any other benefit, like the Celerity and Force domain.
Madfox11 09-11-06, 03:42 AM	The Complete Arcane explicitely explains how arcane spellcasters deal with getting access to domains somewhere at the start of the book. I don't have the book at hand, but if I remember correctly you do NOT know the spells automatically as a spontaneous caster (they count against the spells known) and you need to prepare them as a normal spell. You will need to check the CA though to verify whether or not I remembered it correctly.
jokem 09-11-06, 12:12 PM	The Complete Arcane explicitely explains how arcane spellcasters deal with getting access to domains somewhere at the start of the book. I don't have the book at hand, but if I remember correctly you do NOT know the spells automatically as a spontaneous caster (they count against the spells known) and you need to prepare them as a normal spell. You will need to check the CA though to verify whether or not I remembered it correctly. Well, the feat is explained in Complete Divine... But based upon that it is not very clear to me. I will have to scrape up a copy of Complete Arcane...
Madfox11 09-12-06, 03:37 AM	Which might mean that I am mixing up things and that it is actually explained in the Complete Divine in one of the earlier chapters (the prestige class one would be a good place to look).
Mommy was an Orc 09-12-06, 09:05 AM	Madfox is mixing up the Extra Domain ability with the Arcane Disciple feat(both in Complete Divine) You don't get bonus spells and it does count against spells known.
jokem 09-12-06, 03:41 PM	Madfox is mixing up the Extra Domain ability with the Arcane Disciple feat(both in Complete Divine) You don't get bonus spells and it does count against spells known. So who do I tell that Heros Forge does not do it this way (or Spell Forge, I guess).
kenobi65 09-12-06, 04:32 PM	So who do I tell that Heros Forge does not do it this way (or Spell Forge, I guess). The folks who maintain Heroforge. There's a Yahoo Group for it. You might want to post there.
Mommy was an Orc 09-12-06, 04:37 PM	I just tested it in Spellforge, does it in the way I describe. You are checking the Arcane Disciple feat and not doing domain select, correct? So who do I tell that Heros Forge does not do it this way (or Spell Forge, I guess).
jokem 09-12-06, 05:02 PM	I just tested it in Spellforge, does it in the way I describe. You are checking the Arcane Disciple feat and not doing domain select, correct? No. What it does is not include it in the spell selection list, so I cannot pick it as one of the spells known. When I check 'include domain' it puts it in the spell sheet as a domain spell (healing). I will try again and let you know exactly what I am doing, later.
jokem 09-12-06, 06:33 PM	I see on the notes that it requires the All Spells TAB to be used for this. I get it now. It does not deduct this from Spells known, and that is just the way it works. I suppose since this is shareware, I should not complain.