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RBNMare

07-21-07, 08:59 PM
Are these legal in LG? I dont see them in the revised part of the conversion doucument.

Thanks in advance for you help
Banor

07-21-07, 09:02 PM
As everything that is not mentioned in the LGCS, you need campaign documentation to use said item/rule option/PrC
RBNMare

07-21-07, 09:05 PM
Correct me if im wrong. If i had access to them on an AR, then I can craft them. Which should mean I have documentation. Is that correct?
Banor

07-21-07, 09:11 PM
If you had access to them on a AR then you can craft them you are right :)
RBNMare

07-21-07, 09:14 PM
:cool:

Thanks for your help
Samwise

07-21-07, 10:27 PM
To be precise:

If you have access to them in the lower portion of the AR, you can craft them.

If you have access to them as part of a favor in the upper portion of the AR, you can not craft them.
RBNMare

07-21-07, 10:48 PM
To be precise:

If you have access to them in the lower portion of the AR, you can craft them.

If you have access to them as part of a favor in the upper portion of the AR, you can not craft them.


Thats good to know, thanks
Timlagor

07-29-07, 04:03 PM
Also to be clear the AR is documentation; owning them and having them on your MIL would also not allow you to craft them if you don't also have AR access in the items found box or something specifically stating that you can craft them (makes no sense to me but there you go).
Samwise

07-29-07, 04:39 PM
Also to be clear the AR is documentation; owning them and having them on your MIL would also not allow you to craft them if you don't also have AR access in the items found box or something specifically stating that you can craft them (makes no sense to me but there you go).

That is so you don't get it in the upper part of an AR, buy it, then claim you can craft it because it is on your MIL.
Or, in a rare situation, someone might have an old item from a cert that has been transferred onto their MIL.

Or, simply, a MIL is not campaign documentation.
An AR is campaign documentation.
Only access in the lower portion of an AR is campaign documentation for creation.
RBNMare

07-30-07, 10:42 AM
Albert Einstein would have problems with all these rules. :eek:
Samwise

07-30-07, 11:36 AM
Why?
The rules are straightforward.
The only confusion arises when people try to get around them, and then others question the purpose of specific sub-cases.
RBNMare

07-30-07, 03:59 PM
I was attempting to be funny, it seems i have failed:weep:

I love to play by the rules, and i have read the rules. I still find myself asking questions on this board and asking questions to the local GM's. They are what many would call rules lawyers.

So maybe my real life INT is only a 10, I still find some of the rules confusing, But my CHA is an 18 (lame attempt at a joke)

Thanks to everyone who has helped answer my question, i do appreciate it.:teach: Keep up the great work :teach:
Samwise

07-30-07, 07:16 PM
I was attempting to be funny, it seems i have failed:weep:

No, the problem is there are people who would say that to be serious, and others who take it seriously.

I love to play by the rules, and i have read the rules. I still find myself asking questions on this board and asking questions to the local GM's. They are what many would call rules lawyers.

There is nothing wrong with asking questions. I constantly double check things just in case.
And there is nothing wrong with being a rules lawyer.
The reason the rules grow to such size and requires rules lawyers is because of the people who don't ask questions, and don't love to play by the rules, but who read then conveniently "forget" whatever rules get in their way.