Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Baron_VonWarhammer 03-19-07, 02:16 PM	Is the Dragon Samurai prestige class (from the MH) open, or closed, access? I don't see it listed in the LGCS, so does that default it to closed access? Thanks The Baron
Timlagor 03-19-07, 02:45 PM	The Default is Unlisted. If you get Access on an AR then you can take it. Otherwise you can't.
kenobi65 03-19-07, 03:05 PM	The Default is Unlisted. Well, technically, there's no official term for "unlisted" items in the new LGCS, though "NONC" ("neither open nor closed") gets used unofficially. In short: if it's on the Open list, you can use / buy it with no particular restrictions. If it's on the Closed list, you will *never* be allowed to use it. If it's on neither list, you can't use it without campaign documentation (e.g., AR access, metaorg access, etc.) Since Dragon Samurai isn't on either list, it's in that "NONC" category; in other words, you need access to take it, but, in theory, access is possible.
Timlagor 03-19-07, 10:47 PM	sure.. but "noncy" is horrible
jstorrie 03-19-07, 11:41 PM	A quick check of the Nyrond and Zeif turbines suggests that out of five thousand characters or so, none have taken Dragon Samurai levels. If there is access at all out there, it's likely stuffed in some obscure regional; but I doubt the access is out there at all.
King Kashue 03-20-07, 01:36 AM	Even though it's not closed to everyone per the LGCS, I doubt we'll ever see it. The Japanese-feel classes are not "Greyhawk-ish", and the Samurai, Ninja, Wu Jen, and Shugenja are all closed because of that.
Hariman 03-20-07, 02:08 AM	Even though it's not closed to everyone per the LGCS, I doubt we'll ever see it. The Japanese-feel classes are not "Greyhawk-ish", and the Samurai, Ninja, Wu Jen, and Shugenja are all closed because of that. Someone might get a Special Mission for it. But that's only good for one character.
Timlagor 03-20-07, 07:28 AM	Someone might get a Special Mission for it. But that's only good for one character. It would also require the Circle to approve it which as King Kashue points out is unlikely in this case.
kenobi65 03-20-07, 10:22 AM	Even though it's not closed to everyone per the LGCS, I doubt we'll ever see it. The Japanese-feel classes are not "Greyhawk-ish", and the Samurai, Ninja, Wu Jen, and Shugenja are all closed because of that. That's an excellent point. Given that the Samurai base class is Closed, I guess I'm a little surprised that Dragon Samurai isn't on that list, too.
Jay_Ibero_911 03-20-07, 10:30 AM	The reason Dragon Samurai is not closed is probably because asside from the name, the class doesn't really have any Asian flavor to it, unlike the samurai or ninja classes. I doubt you'd have a hard time getting it with a special mission, given it's not a spectacularly powerful class to begin with, so you shouldn't have anyone denying you on the cheese front either.
ithardin 03-20-07, 01:12 PM	A quick check of the Nyrond and Zeif turbines suggests that out of five thousand characters or so, none have taken Dragon Samurai levels. If there is access at all out there, it's likely stuffed in some obscure regional; but I doubt the access is out there at all. *knows of one such "obscure regional" that does give access to Dragon Samurai PrC* MWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
rutrow424 03-20-07, 05:38 PM	The reason Dragon Samurai is not closed is probably because asside from the name, the class doesn't really have any Asian flavor to it, unlike the samurai or ninja classes. I doubt you'd have a hard time getting it with a special mission, given it's not a spectacularly powerful class to begin with, so you shouldn't have anyone denying you on the cheese front either. For awhile, it was available in Verbobonc due to a specific regional NPC; I am not aware of anyone taking any levels in it though. It is underpowered, particularly compared to other warrior-type p-classes (including the core dragon disciple).
catsclaw 03-21-07, 08:47 AM	For awhile, it was available in Verbobonc due to a specific regional NPC; I am not aware of anyone taking any levels in it though.Lord Shannus is still around, and still amassing a motley assortment of draconic followers in and around the town of Glory, for yet unspecified purposes.
rutrow424 03-21-07, 02:52 PM	Lord Shannus is still around, and still amassing a motley assortment of draconic followers in and around the town of Glory, for yet unspecified purposes. Too true...I happen to know some of them...
gomeztoo 03-22-07, 12:02 PM	Too true...I happen to know some of them... Shannus is a real sweety, you just have to know him a bit better. (And he's a hunk, too!)
kenobi65 03-22-07, 01:59 PM	Shannus is a real sweety, you just have to know him a bit better. (And he's a hunk, too!) I was wondering when you'd show up to stick up for that whack-job Nessalia calls a mate. ;)
gomeztoo 03-22-07, 04:17 PM	I was wondering when you'd show up to stick up for that whack-job Nessalia calls a mate. ;) Well, we're both whacky, so we make a good pair. I don't know that many other people that support or like Shannus though, but I guess I just don't meet them. Oddly enough the people that seem to have the most severe dislike for him seem to be people that are very much like him in character... it's mostly the goals that differ.
ithardin 03-27-07, 05:40 PM	Arafinwe's made his choice. If its siding with Shannus or siding with the humans of the Viscounty, Shannus can count on Arafinwe's blade. I don't know of any other PCs who support Shannus though...