Long Axe and AOO? [Archive] - Wizards Community

Long Axe and AOO? [Archive] - Wizards Community

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Dr.Cornelius
04-14-07, 04:31 AM For those of us who find the Spiked Chain just a little too cheesy, LGCS 597 opens up Long Axe as an option.

If you are proficient with the Long Axe you can use it as a reach weapon any time you use the Power Attack feat to shift 3 or more points of your attack bonus ... You must wield the Long Axe as either a normal or reach weapon until the beginning of your next turn. You cannot wield it as both a normal and a reach weapon in the same turn.Question: can you use the Long Axe to make an AOO against a closing foe - i.e. can you declare an power attack and then make an AOO? Can you declare Power Attack & Reach to be the default mode even if you are not currently engaged?

It would be great if there was a definitive ruling to print out and avoid table variation.

Is there anything else I a missing - it looks like Long Axe is a less flexible (i.e. less cheesy) version of the Spiked Chain. Are there any other practical differences?
Southernskies
04-14-07, 04:40 AM No. Power attack can only be declared on your turn (and requires an Attack to "turn on").
Dr.Cornelius
04-14-07, 05:03 AM So Long Axe is much less practical than Spiked Chain...

I guess I will have to go with Glaive and Short Haft.
Timlagor
04-14-07, 08:36 PM It can indeed only be declared on your turn.
There is however no requirement that you attack to "turn on".

[I]Most GMs will allow someone to declare a 'default power attack level' which they then use ifthey don't say otherwise and have on allthe time.

Since there is no requirement to attack to "turn it on", a character could perfectly well declare their PA every 6 seconds whether in combat or not.

EDIT: Longaxes are still nothing like as good as spiked chains.
Dr.Cornelius
04-14-07, 09:19 PM Right - but the everyone and their dog has a Spiked Chain. Too cheesy.

What do you think about Short Haft?
KarmaInferno
04-16-07, 12:09 PM I don't find Short Haft to be all that good, really.

Spiked armor is better, can be made of special metals or enchanted if you wish, and does not cost a feat. Fills much the same role as attacking or AoOing with Short Haft.

-karma
Ralis
04-16-07, 12:52 PM As someone that is actually using a fighter specializing in the Glaive, I intend to take Short Haft.

My reason for this, is then I can focus my money on enchanting my Glaive, (I've named it Pointy)

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Dr.Cornelius 04-14-07, 04:31 AM	For those of us who find the Spiked Chain just a little too cheesy, LGCS 597 opens up Long Axe as an option. If you are proficient with the Long Axe you can use it as a reach weapon any time you use the Power Attack feat to shift 3 or more points of your attack bonus ... You must wield the Long Axe as either a normal or reach weapon until the beginning of your next turn. You cannot wield it as both a normal and a reach weapon in the same turn.Question: can you use the Long Axe to make an AOO against a closing foe - i.e. can you declare an power attack and then make an AOO? Can you declare Power Attack & Reach to be the default mode even if you are not currently engaged? It would be great if there was a definitive ruling to print out and avoid table variation. Is there anything else I a missing - it looks like Long Axe is a less flexible (i.e. less cheesy) version of the Spiked Chain. Are there any other practical differences?
Southernskies 04-14-07, 04:40 AM	No. Power attack can only be declared on your turn (and requires an Attack to "turn on").
Dr.Cornelius 04-14-07, 05:03 AM	So Long Axe is much less practical than Spiked Chain... I guess I will have to go with Glaive and Short Haft.
Timlagor 04-14-07, 08:36 PM	It can indeed only be declared on your turn. There is however no requirement that you attack to "turn on". [I]Most GMs will allow someone to declare a 'default power attack level' which they then use ifthey don't say otherwise and have on allthe time. Since there is no requirement to attack to "turn it on", a character could perfectly well declare their PA every 6 seconds whether in combat or not. EDIT: Longaxes are still nothing like as good as spiked chains.
Dr.Cornelius 04-14-07, 09:19 PM	Right - but the everyone and their dog has a Spiked Chain. Too cheesy. What do you think about Short Haft?
KarmaInferno 04-16-07, 12:09 PM	I don't find Short Haft to be all that good, really. Spiked armor is better, can be made of special metals or enchanted if you wish, and does not cost a feat. Fills much the same role as attacking or AoOing with Short Haft. -karma
Ralis 04-16-07, 12:52 PM	As someone that is actually using a fighter specializing in the Glaive, I intend to take Short Haft. My reason for this, is then I can focus my money on enchanting my Glaive, (I've named it Pointy)