Monk's Belt: D&D FAQ vs LG FAQ [Archive] - Wizards Community

Monk's Belt: D&D FAQ vs LG FAQ [Archive] - Wizards Community

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pedr
11-23-06, 08:26 AM Today's FAQ has the following question and answer Does a monk’s belt (Dungeon Master’s Guide, 248) grant
a non-monk wearer his Wisdom bonus to AC?
Yes. Note, however, that the wearer gains the AC bonus
only when unarmored and unencumbered, since the belt clearly
states that “this AC bonus functions just like the monk’s AC
bonus.”

The Living Greyhawk FAQ, Errata and Rules Variants chapter of the LGCS has the contrary ruling: Q: Does the monk’s belt from the Dungeon Master’s Guide v.3.5 allow me to add my wisdom score to my armor class?
A: No. The belt grants +1 AC bonus from the monk chart in the Player’s Handbook v.3.5. It does not grant the Wisdom bonus to armor class.

I imagine that, unless something official comes from the Circle, the LGCS ruling still stands. Nevertheless, possibly something which should be clarified?
clannagh
11-23-06, 08:05 PM i am not sure that is a new ruling ... i think you may find the LGCS ruling is not a mistake but was specifically written to over-rule the somewhat contentious wizards FAQ on this

similiar to the LGCS ruling that rejects the new polymorph changes

either way it makes no real difference .. no non-monk class is likely to run around with no armor just to pick up a wisdom bonus to AC
Arinaad
11-23-06, 08:13 PM Actually I would really appreciate a ruling on this. My mystic theurge really would love to have a monks belt for the +6 wisdom bonus to AC. That would bump him to:

+6 (GMA)+6(natural)+4 (shield)+3 (shield of faith)+6 (Wis) +2 (dex)=AC37 unarmoured!!!!
clannagh
11-23-06, 08:22 PM Actually I would really appreciate a ruling on this. My mystic theurge really would love to have a monks belt for the +6 wisdom bonus to AC. That would bump him to:

+6 (GMA)+6(natural)+4 (shield)+3 (shield of faith)+6 (Wis) +2 (dex)=AC37 unarmoured!!!!

Actually AC38 because you also pick up the monks +1 AC for 5 levels .. get an ioun stone and you would have AC 39

ok .. point taken .. some people would find it useful
JJeff
11-23-06, 08:27 PM Just for clarification and in case someone missed out how your AC is derived from:

10 Base
+6 armour bonus from Greater Mage Armour
+6 Natural from being Alter Self-ed into a Troglodyte
+4 shield from Shield spell
+3 luck from a casting of Shield of Faith
+2 from Dex
+6 from Wisdom if you have the belt.
Total = 37 AC
clannagh
11-23-06, 08:34 PM Just for clarification and in case someone missed out how your AC is derived from:

10 Base
+6 armour bonus from Greater Mage Armour
+6 Natural from being Alter Self-ed into a Troglodyte
+4 shield from Shield spell
+3 luck from a casting of Shield of Faith
+2 from Dex
+6 from Wisdom if you have the belt.
Total = 37 AC

sheild of fatith is deflection not luck

but he has no other deflection bonus so that is all good
_m_
11-23-06, 08:47 PM does take you 4 rounds to get all that up, but its still pretty cool.

im a big fan (i cool people down quickly?) of gma myself, especially since that stupid material component went away.
Arvagor
11-23-06, 09:27 PM i am not sure that is a new ruling ... i think you may find the LGCS ruling is not a mistake but was specifically written to over-rule the somewhat contentious wizards FAQ on thisIf you check the FAQ, you'll see that it is a new ruling -- it's highlighted in red. The question itself was originally posed/answered in Dragon #349's Sage Advice column...
clannagh
11-23-06, 10:36 PM If you check the FAQ, you'll see that it is a new ruling -- it's highlighted in red. The question itself was originally posed/answered in Dragon #349's Sage Advice column...

Fair enough ..
Britt
11-25-06, 03:09 PM Until there is a Circle statement on it, the LGCS ruling stands. They might say something about it in the next Dispel Confusion article.
clannagh
11-26-06, 02:55 AM Actually it has just struck me that a Monk's belt with the new errata ruling combined with the feat Ascetic mage would be rather amazing for sorcerors who basically have then acquired charisma to AC with a belt.
ShinAkuma2
11-26-06, 03:04 AM The Monk's Belt has always worked that way, and the LGCS has always (as long as I've been playing) stated that it works differently for LG. Nothing has changed.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
pedr 11-23-06, 08:26 AM	Today's FAQ has the following question and answer Does a monk’s belt (Dungeon Master’s Guide, 248) grant a non-monk wearer his Wisdom bonus to AC? Yes. Note, however, that the wearer gains the AC bonus only when unarmored and unencumbered, since the belt clearly states that “this AC bonus functions just like the monk’s AC bonus.” The Living Greyhawk FAQ, Errata and Rules Variants chapter of the LGCS has the contrary ruling: Q: Does the monk’s belt from the Dungeon Master’s Guide v.3.5 allow me to add my wisdom score to my armor class? A: No. The belt grants +1 AC bonus from the monk chart in the Player’s Handbook v.3.5. It does not grant the Wisdom bonus to armor class. I imagine that, unless something official comes from the Circle, the LGCS ruling still stands. Nevertheless, possibly something which should be clarified?
clannagh 11-23-06, 08:05 PM	i am not sure that is a new ruling ... i think you may find the LGCS ruling is not a mistake but was specifically written to over-rule the somewhat contentious wizards FAQ on this similiar to the LGCS ruling that rejects the new polymorph changes either way it makes no real difference .. no non-monk class is likely to run around with no armor just to pick up a wisdom bonus to AC
Arinaad 11-23-06, 08:13 PM	Actually I would really appreciate a ruling on this. My mystic theurge really would love to have a monks belt for the +6 wisdom bonus to AC. That would bump him to: +6 (GMA)+6(natural)+4 (shield)+3 (shield of faith)+6 (Wis) +2 (dex)=AC37 unarmoured!!!!
clannagh 11-23-06, 08:22 PM	Actually I would really appreciate a ruling on this. My mystic theurge really would love to have a monks belt for the +6 wisdom bonus to AC. That would bump him to: +6 (GMA)+6(natural)+4 (shield)+3 (shield of faith)+6 (Wis) +2 (dex)=AC37 unarmoured!!!! Actually AC38 because you also pick up the monks +1 AC for 5 levels .. get an ioun stone and you would have AC 39 ok .. point taken .. some people would find it useful
JJeff 11-23-06, 08:27 PM	Just for clarification and in case someone missed out how your AC is derived from: 10 Base +6 armour bonus from Greater Mage Armour +6 Natural from being Alter Self-ed into a Troglodyte +4 shield from Shield spell +3 luck from a casting of Shield of Faith +2 from Dex +6 from Wisdom if you have the belt. Total = 37 AC
clannagh 11-23-06, 08:34 PM	Just for clarification and in case someone missed out how your AC is derived from: 10 Base +6 armour bonus from Greater Mage Armour +6 Natural from being Alter Self-ed into a Troglodyte +4 shield from Shield spell +3 luck from a casting of Shield of Faith +2 from Dex +6 from Wisdom if you have the belt. Total = 37 AC sheild of fatith is deflection not luck but he has no other deflection bonus so that is all good
_m_ 11-23-06, 08:47 PM	does take you 4 rounds to get all that up, but its still pretty cool. im a big fan (i cool people down quickly?) of gma myself, especially since that stupid material component went away.
Arvagor 11-23-06, 09:27 PM	i am not sure that is a new ruling ... i think you may find the LGCS ruling is not a mistake but was specifically written to over-rule the somewhat contentious wizards FAQ on thisIf you check the FAQ, you'll see that it is a new ruling -- it's highlighted in red. The question itself was originally posed/answered in Dragon #349's Sage Advice column...
clannagh 11-23-06, 10:36 PM	If you check the FAQ, you'll see that it is a new ruling -- it's highlighted in red. The question itself was originally posed/answered in Dragon #349's Sage Advice column... Fair enough ..
Britt 11-25-06, 03:09 PM	Until there is a Circle statement on it, the LGCS ruling stands. They might say something about it in the next Dispel Confusion article.
clannagh 11-26-06, 02:55 AM	Actually it has just struck me that a Monk's belt with the new errata ruling combined with the feat Ascetic mage would be rather amazing for sorcerors who basically have then acquired charisma to AC with a belt.
ShinAkuma2 11-26-06, 03:04 AM	The Monk's Belt has always worked that way, and the LGCS has always (as long as I've been playing) stated that it works differently for LG. Nothing has changed.