Point of Order: various MM feats [Archive] - Wizards Community

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Bob_the_Theurge

02-20-06, 04:27 PM
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If they were designed for characters to use, then many characters would be taking Improved Natural Armor, Improved Natural Attack (especially monks), etc. It just isn't meant to work the same.

I take it you missed where players were complaining about not being able to take those feats. They are indeed designed to be used by anyone with such an attack, they are simply not allowed for players in the LG campaign.

As a point of order for those who weren't paying attention, multiple people did in fact complain that more and more PrC's actually do qualify for, and specifically mention in text, those feats but are still not allowed to take them because they are "NPC Only" for no game-based reason.

Our "beloved" Circle did not deign to give us a response.
WotC_Tulach

02-20-06, 06:28 PM
They are NPC only due to the fact that they are found in the Monster Manual. We didn't want to open up the MM as another rules source for players in the LG campaign.
Bob_the_Theurge

02-20-06, 06:34 PM
They are NPC only due to the fact that they are found in the Monster Manual. We didn't want to open up the MM as another rules source for players in the LG campaign.

I think WotC just did that for you with the new Polymorph stuff...
WotC_Tulach

02-20-06, 06:37 PM
Not necessarily. We will be discussing how the polymorph errata affects the LG campaign at Winter Fantasy.

Once it's over, I'll be writing up a new Dispel Confusion covering our decision.
Bob_the_Theurge

02-20-06, 06:38 PM
Not necessarily. We will be discussing how the polymorph errata affects the LG campaign at Winter Fantasy.

Once it's over, I'll be writing up a new Dispel Confusion covering our decision.

So be it.

When all the Druids based on Wildshape retire en masse from the campaign... you'll know why.
Simpi

02-21-06, 08:08 AM
So be it.

When all the Druids based on Wildshape retire en masse from the campaign... you'll know why.

That's a nice attitude to have isn't it? Circle will screw you over, no matter what, so let's all moan and complain before they have even uttered a word...

And as pointed out in other thread, you've essentially said the same thing in several different threads of this forum. Hopefully you didn't create that alias just to rant about this errata.

S.H, the guy from Naerie
Bob_the_Theurge

02-21-06, 12:00 PM
That's a nice attitude to have isn't it? Circle will screw you over, no matter what, so let's all moan and complain before they have even uttered a word...

Not what I said. But we already have a large number of players on the LG yahoogroup and elsewhere who are "shelving" their Druids pending Circle decision and who have promised to retire them if this errata stands.

And as pointed out in other thread, you've essentially said the same thing in several different threads of this forum. Hopefully you didn't create that alias just to rant about this errata.

If you consider pointing out what is ridiculous to be "ranting" then you're a fool.
CSHunt68

02-21-06, 02:19 PM
So be it.

When all the Druids based on Wildshape retire en masse from the campaign... you'll know why.

Bye.