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I_Have_Orc_Blood 11-11-06, 12:45 AM	The feat Font of Life allows you a save against any spell or effect that would drain energy or bestow negative levels. But it doesn't say what kind of save. When I was hit by an Envervaion I wasn't sure what to do since it doesn't normally allow for a save of any kind. Thanks
Arvagor 11-11-06, 01:05 AM	Based on the wording at the end of the feat, one interpretation would be that if the attack doesn't allow a save in the first place (such as enervation), then Font of Life isn't going to change that. One could also go by the description for Energy Drain and Negative Levels in the DMG:If a negative level is not removed before 24 hours have passed, the affected creature must attempt a Fortitude save (DC 10 + ½ draining creature’s racial HD + draining creature’s Cha modifier; the exact DC is given in the creature’s descriptive text).If a creature doesn't have a DC and save "type" specified for its energy drain attack, then I'd say use the formula above. Note that the only creature with an energy drain attack that doesn't have a set DC is a vampire, presumably since "vampire" is a template.
Howie23 11-11-06, 01:05 AM	The feat Font of Life allows you a save against any spell or effect that would drain energy or bestow negative levels. But it doesn't say what kind of save. When I was hit by an Envervaion I wasn't sure what to do since it doesn't normally allow for a save of any kind. It's up to your judge. What you should do as a player is to say you have the feat and give him the text and let him decide...not you. As a judge, I'd make it a Fort save, and give no serious consideration to anything else based upon the information provided. David
JohnduBois 11-11-06, 10:29 AM	The feat Font of Life allows you a save against any spell or effect that would drain energy or bestow negative levels. But it doesn't say what kind of save. When I was hit by an Envervaion I wasn't sure what to do since it doesn't normally allow for a save of any kind. Thanks This seems like an excellent question for WotC Customer Service. As a general rule, LG authorities do not make rules judgments except in areas where LG rules differ than standard 3.5 rules.
budleiser 11-12-06, 08:39 AM	It's up to your judge. What you should do as a player is to say you have the feat and give him the text and let him decide...not you. As a judge, I'd make it a Fort save, and give no serious consideration to anything else based upon the information provided. David While your at the table and you don't know then yes. But its important to later go and find the correct answer since its your own feat, and explain the correct answer to anyone who rules erroneously. Just cause your DM passed an open book herald test, does not mean he is going to be correct on tricky issues. Take me for example, I passed the herald test but theres still TONS of stuff I don't know.
Howie23 11-12-06, 11:34 AM	While your at the table and you don't know then yes. But its important to later go and find the correct answer since its your own feat, and explain the correct answer to anyone who rules erroneously. The only way to get a correct answer to this that overrides the opinion of the judge at the table is were this to be so common a question that it would make it into the FAQ. In the meantime, the best that can be done is to formulate an argument that would appeal to most people. A reply from customer service is guidance only. That means tremendously different things to different people. It is, of course, the path to take if there really is sufficient interest to try to get it to the FAQ. If so, it might be worth broadening it to "how do I determine which saving throw is requiring when an effect specifies a save, but does not specifiy which one," or similar language David