Rage Mage Q? [Archive] - Wizards Community

Rage Mage Q? [Archive] - Wizards Community

Post/Author/DateTime Post
LachlarlanIII
07-09-07, 08:23 PM I don't understand something about how the Spell Rage class feature works.

I understand that you can cast spells while using it, but do I have to declare whether I'm using Spell Rage or will any form of Rage work?

Can I only cast 1 spell per day (or more) while raging/spell raging?

Thanks.
KShaver
07-09-07, 10:35 PM Spell rage is its own type of rage, you do need to declare which type of rage you are using.

You can cast all the spells you want while in a spell rage, within the allotted time of course.
LachlarlanIII
07-09-07, 10:47 PM Would Extra Rage apply to spell rage?
Arcane Guyver
07-10-07, 12:45 AM I think you apply that feat to either regular Rage or Spell Rage.
Banor
07-10-07, 07:54 AM I think you apply that feat to either regular Rage or Spell Rage.

Yea that seem like the Extra Smite problem.
Arcane Guyver
07-10-07, 10:40 AM Yea that seem like the Extra Smite problem.

I honestly don't think it's that bad. One feat with minimal prereqs granting 3 extra Rages per day is pretty potent; that same feat granting 6 (or more, if you have more than 2 types of rage at your disposal) is way too good.

Extra Smite, on the other hand, has much more stringent requirements and isn't nearly as impressive (two more melee attacks per day are extra-nice).
Banor
07-10-07, 07:13 PM Yea well what i meant is that those two feats are worded pretty much the same way.

I'd say 2 floating rages imo
Dr.Cornelius
07-11-07, 04:01 AM Rage Mage would be a fun prestige class if it didn't suck. 3/4 BAB, 1/2 caster progression, one good save - Rage Mage makes SpellSword and Eldritch Knight look good...
LachlarlanIII
07-11-07, 09:30 AM Rage Mage would be a fun prestige class if it didn't suck. 3/4 BAB, 1/2 caster progression, one good save - Rage Mage makes SpellSword and Eldritch Knight look good...

It isn't so bad as a one level dip if you want to build a Barbarian Gish, but that's only if Extra Rage can be used on spell rage.
Arcane Guyver
07-11-07, 12:28 PM Rage Mage would be a fun prestige class if it didn't suck.

I played one once, and it was fun. The key is to make sure to learn big blasty spells that have a dramatic difference with higher caster level (like more rays with scorching ray or more d6's with fireball). Some combats you'll spell rage, others you'll rage normally, all depending on the type of enemies you run into.
amnuxoll
07-11-07, 03:38 PM It isn't so bad as a one level dip if you want to build a Barbarian Gish, but that's only if Extra Rage can be used on spell rage.

My 12th level PC has two levels of Rage Mage. He's fun. But I won't argue that it's suboptimal. It is nice to cast spells in a rage though.

:AMN:
Timlagor
07-17-07, 01:42 PM Rage Mage would be a fun prestige class if it didn't suck. 3/4 BAB, 1/2 caster progression, one good save - Rage Mage makes SpellSword and Eldritch Knight look good...

This is rather an odd thing to say given that Spellsword and Eldritch knight are good PrCs.
bitznarf
07-19-07, 06:12 PM This is rather an odd thing to say given that Spellsword and Eldritch knight are good PrCs.
Ehh, I wouldn't go so far as to call them good. They are decent in my opinion, but not good.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
LachlarlanIII 07-09-07, 08:23 PM	I don't understand something about how the Spell Rage class feature works. I understand that you can cast spells while using it, but do I have to declare whether I'm using Spell Rage or will any form of Rage work? Can I only cast 1 spell per day (or more) while raging/spell raging? Thanks.
KShaver 07-09-07, 10:35 PM	Spell rage is its own type of rage, you do need to declare which type of rage you are using. You can cast all the spells you want while in a spell rage, within the allotted time of course.
LachlarlanIII 07-09-07, 10:47 PM	Would Extra Rage apply to spell rage?
Arcane Guyver 07-10-07, 12:45 AM	I think you apply that feat to either regular Rage or Spell Rage.
Banor 07-10-07, 07:54 AM	I think you apply that feat to either regular Rage or Spell Rage. Yea that seem like the Extra Smite problem.
Arcane Guyver 07-10-07, 10:40 AM	Yea that seem like the Extra Smite problem. I honestly don't think it's that bad. One feat with minimal prereqs granting 3 extra Rages per day is pretty potent; that same feat granting 6 (or more, if you have more than 2 types of rage at your disposal) is way too good. Extra Smite, on the other hand, has much more stringent requirements and isn't nearly as impressive (two more melee attacks per day are extra-nice).
Banor 07-10-07, 07:13 PM	Yea well what i meant is that those two feats are worded pretty much the same way. I'd say 2 floating rages imo
Dr.Cornelius 07-11-07, 04:01 AM	Rage Mage would be a fun prestige class if it didn't suck. 3/4 BAB, 1/2 caster progression, one good save - Rage Mage makes SpellSword and Eldritch Knight look good...
LachlarlanIII 07-11-07, 09:30 AM	Rage Mage would be a fun prestige class if it didn't suck. 3/4 BAB, 1/2 caster progression, one good save - Rage Mage makes SpellSword and Eldritch Knight look good... It isn't so bad as a one level dip if you want to build a Barbarian Gish, but that's only if Extra Rage can be used on spell rage.
Arcane Guyver 07-11-07, 12:28 PM	Rage Mage would be a fun prestige class if it didn't suck. I played one once, and it was fun. The key is to make sure to learn big blasty spells that have a dramatic difference with higher caster level (like more rays with scorching ray or more d6's with fireball). Some combats you'll spell rage, others you'll rage normally, all depending on the type of enemies you run into.
amnuxoll 07-11-07, 03:38 PM	It isn't so bad as a one level dip if you want to build a Barbarian Gish, but that's only if Extra Rage can be used on spell rage. My 12th level PC has two levels of Rage Mage. He's fun. But I won't argue that it's suboptimal. It is nice to cast spells in a rage though. :AMN:
Timlagor 07-17-07, 01:42 PM	Rage Mage would be a fun prestige class if it didn't suck. 3/4 BAB, 1/2 caster progression, one good save - Rage Mage makes SpellSword and Eldritch Knight look good... This is rather an odd thing to say given that Spellsword and Eldritch knight are good PrCs.
bitznarf 07-19-07, 06:12 PM	This is rather an odd thing to say given that Spellsword and Eldritch knight are good PrCs. Ehh, I wouldn't go so far as to call them good. They are decent in my opinion, but not good.