Song type spells [Archive] - Wizards Community

Song type spells [Archive] - Wizards Community

Post/Author/DateTime Post
MasterWolf4040
02-04-06, 01:11 PM I was at a game the other day as the question of does the caster have to see the target or not of a snog spell. The DM and other player decided that if the caster can here the song they are affected by the song. I'm bringing this up because it may conflict with the new rules.
JohnduBois
02-04-06, 01:15 PM It depends somewhat on which spells and effects you're talking about. Can you be more specific?
MasterWolf4040
02-04-06, 01:23 PM It was countersong, but i will have to check.
JohnduBois
02-04-06, 01:27 PM Countersong is not a spell. It is a bardic music effect. It, and other bardic music effects, do require that the subject hear the performing bard. Some effects, such as fascinate, require that the bard see the creature or creatures affected. However, unless this is specifically detailed in the ability's description, visual contact is not required. Countersong falls in this latter category.
MasterWolf4040
02-04-06, 03:38 PM thanks that answered my question

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
MasterWolf4040 02-04-06, 01:11 PM	I was at a game the other day as the question of does the caster have to see the target or not of a snog spell. The DM and other player decided that if the caster can here the song they are affected by the song. I'm bringing this up because it may conflict with the new rules.
JohnduBois 02-04-06, 01:15 PM	It depends somewhat on which spells and effects you're talking about. Can you be more specific?
MasterWolf4040 02-04-06, 01:23 PM	It was countersong, but i will have to check.
JohnduBois 02-04-06, 01:27 PM	Countersong is not a spell. It is a bardic music effect. It, and other bardic music effects, do require that the subject hear the performing bard. Some effects, such as fascinate, require that the bard see the creature or creatures affected. However, unless this is specifically detailed in the ability's description, visual contact is not required. Countersong falls in this latter category.
MasterWolf4040 02-04-06, 03:38 PM	thanks that answered my question