Toon Death Questions... [Archive] - Wizards Community

Toon Death Questions... [Archive] - Wizards Community

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Rerednaw
08-24-07, 04:35 PM When your character gets killed and raised does your xp get reset to the bottom?

If your character was at 9,999 xp and dies does being raised set his xp total to 3000?

I've never bothered bringing a toon back before (never worth it, dead is dead) so I'm wondering.
LachlarlanIII
08-24-07, 04:38 PM Please don't call them toons.

When you die and come back your xp is set to the halfway point between your new lower level and the next level.
magebeast
08-24-07, 04:40 PM Your experience is set to halfway between your new level (the one you drop down to) and the level you were before.

As a for instance, my 8th level sorcerer just bit it in part five of Red Hand last Tuesday - a truly unpleasant sort of moment - , and I'm going to have to use a favor to get a raise.

7th level is at 21,000 xp.
8th is at 28,000 xp.

It takes 7000 experience to go from level 7 to level 8, so I'll have half of that needed experience, 3,500. My experience total post-raise will be 24,500.
Rerednaw
08-24-07, 04:46 PM Considering that LG is now DG, which I consider a dark comedy...I think toon perfectly fits. :)

I tried to find the rules on setting xp, it's not the SRD under Raise Dead or in the LGCS. Is this a PHB thing? I can check it when I get my hands on my book later...

Cheers and thanks.
Arvagor
08-24-07, 08:07 PM I tried to find the rules on setting xp, it's not the SRD under Raise Dead or in the LGCS. Is this a PHB thing? I can check it when I get my hands on my book later...PHB, page 171, under Bringing Back the Dead.

SRD: http://www.d20srd.org/srd/magicOverview/castingSpells.htm#bringingBacktheDead
rpisto
09-23-07, 11:31 AM The Raising the Dead section of the Living Greyhawk Campaign Sourcebook (page 13) states that if you cannot afford to pay for a raise dead , "you may pay all the GP you have and spend time working the rest off." This would seem to suggest that no matter how poor a dead character is, he can be raised. The next sentence states "You must spend 5 TUs and a minimum of 2,500 GP for raise dead...". Is the 2,500 GP necessary or is all of the character's gold sufficient to be raised?
ShinAkuma2
09-23-07, 11:04 PM The next sentence states "You must spend 5 TUs and a minimum of 2,500 GP for raise dead...". Is the 2,500 GP necessary or is all of the character's gold sufficient to be raised?

You said it yourself. That 2500 gp is a minimum. If you don't have the gold, you have to sell equipment, get your teammates to donate, use "Charity of Friends", or remain dead.
Gwumph
09-24-07, 04:26 AM What if you have a favor that halves the cost of a raise dead??

you pay 5 TU and the cost is 2500, then can you use the favor and half it too 1250gp ?
Timlagor
09-25-07, 06:35 AM I might allow that but you certainly shouldn't count on being allowed ..though most people don't plan to die anyway ;)
Vamroc
09-26-07, 01:28 PM Reincarnate take the risk if your lucky you might end up as something that helps your class. If you go from Human to Dwarf and your a Barbarian good for you. Because jumping from a sixteen to an eighteen con at no cost is huge. It also means when you rage it becomes a freakin twentytwo to con.
Howie23
09-26-07, 03:01 PM Reincarnate take the risk if your lucky you might end up as something that helps your class. If you go from Human to Dwarf and your a Barbarian good for you. Because jumping from a sixteen to an eighteen con at no cost is huge. It also means when you rage it becomes a freakin twentytwo to con.

At the risk of being told I've missed the point and/or what I'm saying is irrelevant... :\

Reincarnate is an inexpensive option, but it is not universally available like raise dead is. Since it doesn't appear on the LGCS list, it isn't available in core mods or in regional mods for regions that follow the LGCS list. In such cases, it requires campaign documentation, a druid in the party of sufficient level, or a druid that appears in the mod with the spell indicated on his spell list.

David
ShinAkuma2
09-26-07, 09:55 PM At the risk of being told I've missed the point and/or what I'm saying is irrelevant... :\

Let me reassure you that what you say is very relevant. =)

I would've been happy to try to Reincarnate my Barbarian that died at 2nd level...if one was available.
drufause
10-01-07, 02:50 PM Why are we not able to call them toon if we want. It is known and accepted synonym for other words such as player character, and or the different versions of the character class name, such as fifth level ranger, 2nd level cleric. I do not think simply telling someone not to use an accepted and popular label should be a viable option. You should give a reason for asking someone not to call it a toon, if you even have a valid reason for it which I do not see.
Jay_Ibero_911
10-01-07, 05:02 PM Why are we not able to call them toon if we want. It is known and accepted synonym for other words such as player character, and or the different versions of the character class name, such as fifth level ranger, 2nd level cleric. I do not think simply telling someone not to use an accepted and popular label should be a viable option. You should give a reason for asking someone not to call it a toon, if you even have a valid reason for it which I do not see.

I'd hesitate to call it an "accepted and popular label"...I know I've never heard it used before. Not that I'll try and stop you from referring to your characters however you damne well please...
ShinAkuma2
10-01-07, 05:27 PM Toon is military slang for platoon.

A platoon is a military unit, typically composed of two to four sections or squads and containing about 30 to 50 soldiers.

Your PC is singular.

Toon is also used as an abbreviation for avatar, as in a computer representation.

Your PC is not an internet representation of you.

So while no one can stop you from using Toon as slang for PC, it doesn't really make any sense.
Tabiani
10-01-07, 10:43 PM Toon is also used as an abbreviation for avatar, as in a computer representation.

Your PC is not an internet representation of you.
Well, technically, it's an abbreviation for cartoon as in the toons of Toontown in Who Framed Roger Rabbit (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0096438/). Early computer game avatars were cartoon-like and some (by no means all) gamers picked up on that as a reference.

Other than that small nit-pick, I'm in 100% agreement with ya. And personally, with todays near photo-realistic game art, I find the name toon vaguely insulting to the artists. Well, unless you're playing Toontown Online (http://play.toontown.com/about.php). Or maybe WoW. :devil:
Timlagor
10-06-07, 01:16 PM I don't like "toon" either. "We don't like it" seems a good enough reason to me :P

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Rerednaw 08-24-07, 04:35 PM	When your character gets killed and raised does your xp get reset to the bottom? If your character was at 9,999 xp and dies does being raised set his xp total to 3000? I've never bothered bringing a toon back before (never worth it, dead is dead) so I'm wondering.
LachlarlanIII 08-24-07, 04:38 PM	Please don't call them toons. When you die and come back your xp is set to the halfway point between your new lower level and the next level.
magebeast 08-24-07, 04:40 PM	Your experience is set to halfway between your new level (the one you drop down to) and the level you were before. As a for instance, my 8th level sorcerer just bit it in part five of Red Hand last Tuesday - a truly unpleasant sort of moment - , and I'm going to have to use a favor to get a raise. 7th level is at 21,000 xp. 8th is at 28,000 xp. It takes 7000 experience to go from level 7 to level 8, so I'll have half of that needed experience, 3,500. My experience total post-raise will be 24,500.
Rerednaw 08-24-07, 04:46 PM	Considering that LG is now DG, which I consider a dark comedy...I think toon perfectly fits. :) I tried to find the rules on setting xp, it's not the SRD under Raise Dead or in the LGCS. Is this a PHB thing? I can check it when I get my hands on my book later... Cheers and thanks.
Arvagor 08-24-07, 08:07 PM	I tried to find the rules on setting xp, it's not the SRD under Raise Dead or in the LGCS. Is this a PHB thing? I can check it when I get my hands on my book later...PHB, page 171, under Bringing Back the Dead. SRD: http://www.d20srd.org/srd/magicOverview/castingSpells.htm#bringingBacktheDead
rpisto 09-23-07, 11:31 AM	The Raising the Dead section of the Living Greyhawk Campaign Sourcebook (page 13) states that if you cannot afford to pay for a raise dead , "you may pay all the GP you have and spend time working the rest off." This would seem to suggest that no matter how poor a dead character is, he can be raised. The next sentence states "You must spend 5 TUs and a minimum of 2,500 GP for raise dead...". Is the 2,500 GP necessary or is all of the character's gold sufficient to be raised?
ShinAkuma2 09-23-07, 11:04 PM	The next sentence states "You must spend 5 TUs and a minimum of 2,500 GP for raise dead...". Is the 2,500 GP necessary or is all of the character's gold sufficient to be raised? You said it yourself. That 2500 gp is a minimum. If you don't have the gold, you have to sell equipment, get your teammates to donate, use "Charity of Friends", or remain dead.
Gwumph 09-24-07, 04:26 AM	What if you have a favor that halves the cost of a raise dead?? you pay 5 TU and the cost is 2500, then can you use the favor and half it too 1250gp ?
Timlagor 09-25-07, 06:35 AM	I might allow that but you certainly shouldn't count on being allowed ..though most people don't plan to die anyway ;)
Vamroc 09-26-07, 01:28 PM	Reincarnate take the risk if your lucky you might end up as something that helps your class. If you go from Human to Dwarf and your a Barbarian good for you. Because jumping from a sixteen to an eighteen con at no cost is huge. It also means when you rage it becomes a freakin twentytwo to con.
Howie23 09-26-07, 03:01 PM	Reincarnate take the risk if your lucky you might end up as something that helps your class. If you go from Human to Dwarf and your a Barbarian good for you. Because jumping from a sixteen to an eighteen con at no cost is huge. It also means when you rage it becomes a freakin twentytwo to con. At the risk of being told I've missed the point and/or what I'm saying is irrelevant... :\ Reincarnate is an inexpensive option, but it is not universally available like raise dead is. Since it doesn't appear on the LGCS list, it isn't available in core mods or in regional mods for regions that follow the LGCS list. In such cases, it requires campaign documentation, a druid in the party of sufficient level, or a druid that appears in the mod with the spell indicated on his spell list. David
ShinAkuma2 09-26-07, 09:55 PM	At the risk of being told I've missed the point and/or what I'm saying is irrelevant... :\ Let me reassure you that what you say is very relevant. =) I would've been happy to try to Reincarnate my Barbarian that died at 2nd level...if one was available.
drufause 10-01-07, 02:50 PM	Why are we not able to call them toon if we want. It is known and accepted synonym for other words such as player character, and or the different versions of the character class name, such as fifth level ranger, 2nd level cleric. I do not think simply telling someone not to use an accepted and popular label should be a viable option. You should give a reason for asking someone not to call it a toon, if you even have a valid reason for it which I do not see.
Jay_Ibero_911 10-01-07, 05:02 PM	Why are we not able to call them toon if we want. It is known and accepted synonym for other words such as player character, and or the different versions of the character class name, such as fifth level ranger, 2nd level cleric. I do not think simply telling someone not to use an accepted and popular label should be a viable option. You should give a reason for asking someone not to call it a toon, if you even have a valid reason for it which I do not see. I'd hesitate to call it an "accepted and popular label"...I know I've never heard it used before. Not that I'll try and stop you from referring to your characters however you damne well please...
ShinAkuma2 10-01-07, 05:27 PM	Toon is military slang for platoon. A platoon is a military unit, typically composed of two to four sections or squads and containing about 30 to 50 soldiers. Your PC is singular. Toon is also used as an abbreviation for avatar, as in a computer representation. Your PC is not an internet representation of you. So while no one can stop you from using Toon as slang for PC, it doesn't really make any sense.
Tabiani 10-01-07, 10:43 PM	Toon is also used as an abbreviation for avatar, as in a computer representation. Your PC is not an internet representation of you. Well, technically, it's an abbreviation for cartoon as in the toons of Toontown in Who Framed Roger Rabbit (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0096438/). Early computer game avatars were cartoon-like and some (by no means all) gamers picked up on that as a reference. Other than that small nit-pick, I'm in 100% agreement with ya. And personally, with todays near photo-realistic game art, I find the name toon vaguely insulting to the artists. Well, unless you're playing Toontown Online (http://play.toontown.com/about.php). Or maybe WoW. :devil:
Timlagor 10-06-07, 01:16 PM	I don't like "toon" either. "We don't like it" seems a good enough reason to me :P