Well...poo (Retraining for my cleric) [Archive] - Wizards Community

Well...poo (Retraining for my cleric) [Archive] - Wizards Community

Post/Author/DateTime Post
CrystalBlue
02-16-07, 01:19 PM Well, damn...I invested 4 feats into maximizing all of my spells, and it gets the almight Bat of Nerfness slammed into it repeatedly. I don't care what anyone says...Nerf hurts! (esspecially when Divine MM is not broken at all...) :(

With my small complaining done, it's time to ask questions about what should be substituted. Because no one may remember, here is my pre-LGCS 7 cleric:

Feat 1: Meta-magic (Maximize)
Feat 1: Skill Focus (Concentration)
Feat 3: Divine Meta-magic (Maximize)
Feat 6: X-Turning
Feat 9: X-Turning
Feat 12: Craft Wonderous

Right away, I can sub out the Divine MM for something (obviously). And, conveniantly, I have 3 levels before retirement AND 3 levels to retrain all of my feats. Fun. :( So...any idea's what I should put into those? A few ideas I have are:

- Use some of the other Divine feats, such as Divine Might or that one that let's you use turn attempts to give everyone fast healing.
- Retrain everything and go more of a defense cleric (though I really don't want to)
- Retrain everything and go an offence cleric (again, I don't want to, and I don't know if my 14 Str will be that effective for melee damage)
- Take more Meta-magic feats such as Quicken and Empower and use them for lower spells

Anything else people can think of for me? Thankies. ^.^
solbergb
02-16-07, 01:34 PM I'd immediately go with a turning feat. There are a lot of them, and some do interesting things to spellcasting. Domain spontenaity is good, and the one that makes most spells "good" is also useful if you are good domain. Or you can do something like glorious weapons or sacred healing or divine vigor which has indirect benefits (saving spell slots or improving your mobility and toughness)

The next level I'd probably swap maximize for quicken, while keeping track of how often you're using your turn attempts to decide if you want other feats instead of improved turning.

Domain spont with extra turning is actually pretty cool, if you have good domain spells.
LachlarlanIII
02-16-07, 02:31 PM You said you had the Glory domain at one point did you not?

Domain Spontenaity (Glory) is awesome! Holy Sword multiple times or even Bolt of Glory multiple times is awesome!

Not to mention Bless Weapon is also a Glory domain spell. Auto-confirms on crit threats is awesome! :D

If you don't have the Glory domain, you can ignore my rambling.
Sieylianna
02-16-07, 07:13 PM I'd take Sacred Healing to replace DMM. That gives you something to do with your turn attempts until you can retrain your extra turning feats.

Ed

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
CrystalBlue 02-16-07, 01:19 PM	Well, damn...I invested 4 feats into maximizing all of my spells, and it gets the almight Bat of Nerfness slammed into it repeatedly. I don't care what anyone says...Nerf hurts! (esspecially when Divine MM is not broken at all...) :( With my small complaining done, it's time to ask questions about what should be substituted. Because no one may remember, here is my pre-LGCS 7 cleric: Feat 1: Meta-magic (Maximize) Feat 1: Skill Focus (Concentration) Feat 3: Divine Meta-magic (Maximize) Feat 6: X-Turning Feat 9: X-Turning Feat 12: Craft Wonderous Right away, I can sub out the Divine MM for something (obviously). And, conveniantly, I have 3 levels before retirement AND 3 levels to retrain all of my feats. Fun. :( So...any idea's what I should put into those? A few ideas I have are: - Use some of the other Divine feats, such as Divine Might or that one that let's you use turn attempts to give everyone fast healing. - Retrain everything and go more of a defense cleric (though I really don't want to) - Retrain everything and go an offence cleric (again, I don't want to, and I don't know if my 14 Str will be that effective for melee damage) - Take more Meta-magic feats such as Quicken and Empower and use them for lower spells Anything else people can think of for me? Thankies. ^.^
solbergb 02-16-07, 01:34 PM	I'd immediately go with a turning feat. There are a lot of them, and some do interesting things to spellcasting. Domain spontenaity is good, and the one that makes most spells "good" is also useful if you are good domain. Or you can do something like glorious weapons or sacred healing or divine vigor which has indirect benefits (saving spell slots or improving your mobility and toughness) The next level I'd probably swap maximize for quicken, while keeping track of how often you're using your turn attempts to decide if you want other feats instead of improved turning. Domain spont with extra turning is actually pretty cool, if you have good domain spells.
LachlarlanIII 02-16-07, 02:31 PM	You said you had the Glory domain at one point did you not? Domain Spontenaity (Glory) is awesome! Holy Sword multiple times or even Bolt of Glory multiple times is awesome! Not to mention Bless Weapon is also a Glory domain spell. Auto-confirms on crit threats is awesome! :D If you don't have the Glory domain, you can ignore my rambling.
Sieylianna 02-16-07, 07:13 PM	I'd take Sacred Healing to replace DMM. That gives you something to do with your turn attempts until you can retrain your extra turning feats. Ed