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clannagh 11-20-06, 01:21 AM	I wish to confirm I have this correct. Let us assume you are a human druid. My understanding is that when you wildshape in the RPGA version you: - keep your own BAB - keep your base hit points before con is added - keep your INT WISDOM and CHARISMA - keep your base saves - keep skill ranks applicable to new form - acquire the animals STR - acquire the animals DEX - acquire the animals CON and use this new con as your HP modifier - acquire the animals type and subtype - acquires any extraordinary special attacks of the form - does not get extraordinary qualities - does not get supernatural or spell like abilities - cannot cast without a special feat - clothing is absorbed into the new form - you lose the benefit of amor unless it is"wild" - you retain the benefit of other magical items Is this correct ? have I missed anythign important ?
Lupo 11-20-06, 08:24 AM	I wish to confirm I have this correct. Let us assume you are a human druid. My understanding is that when you wildshape in the RPGA version you: - keep your own BAB - keep your base hit points before con is added - keep your INT WISDOM and CHARISMA - keep your base saves - keep skill ranks applicable to new form - acquire the animals STR - acquire the animals DEX - acquire the animals CON and use this new con as your HP modifier - acquire the animals type and subtype - acquires any extraordinary special attacks of the form - does not get extraordinary qualities - does not get supernatural or spell like abilities - cannot cast without a special feat - clothing is absorbed into the new form - you lose the benefit of amor unless it is"wild" - you retain the benefit of other magical items Is this correct ? have I missed anythign important ? from the srd "alter self": When the change occurs, your equipment, if any, either remains worn or held by the new form (if it is capable of wearing or holding the item), or melds into the new form and becomes nonfunctional. as animals are limited to neck slot, cloak and barding (and horseshoes for horses, ponys and the like), all slotted items like gauntlets, girdles etc. become "non-functional", while nonslotted items like ioun stones, pearls of power, etc. may still be active/used. in addition a druid gets any racial skill boni and racial bonus feats the animal has. for instance: Apes have a +8 racial bonus on Climb checks and can always choose to take 10 on Climb checks, even if rushed or threatened. ciao martin m. edit: from polymorph one gets: The subject’s creature type and subtype (if any) change to match the new form. Upon changing, the subject regains lost hit points as if it had rested for a night. and The subject gains the Strength, Dexterity, and Constitution scores of the new form but retains its own Intelligence, Wisdom, and Charisma scores. It also gains all extraordinary special attacks possessed by the form but does not gain the extraordinary special qualities possessed by the new form or any supernatural or spell-like abilities. ciao again martin m. ps: and always make sure to look up an old version of the srd, as the new "errataed" or better "toally silly nerfed to uselessness" version is a pain in a specific anatomic part of the human body :D
_m_ 11-20-06, 08:37 PM	now.... compare it to polymorph.
Cynric 11-21-06, 03:59 AM	What it means really for druids is all you really want is access to wild, if you want to tank, and periapt of Wis if you want to cast. So you can have a really nice pot of gold waiting for those nice Ioun stones to appear.
Lupo 11-21-06, 04:20 AM	What it means really for druids is all you really want is access to wild, if you want to tank, and periapt of Wis if you want to cast. So you can have a really nice pot of gold waiting for those nice Ioun stones to appear. hm, when i cannot get my animal companion around, i might as well take its set of barding (i now own: padded barding for a dire bat, leather barding for a tiger, leather barding for a brown bear, all are masterwork :)) but the simple "mage armor" cast by the hopefully cooperative party's arcanist (and i can lend him enough pearls of power 1st to cast it on the whole party 24/7 if needed) on my pet and me are more usefull most of the time, as the "mage armor" continues when wildshaped ;) ciao martin m.
_m_ 11-21-06, 06:05 PM	hm, when i cannot get my animal companion around, i might as well take its set of barding (i now own: padded barding for a dire bat, leather barding for a tiger, leather barding for a brown bear, all are masterwork :)) but the simple "mage armor" cast by the hopefully cooperative party's arcanist (and i can lend him enough pearls of power 1st to cast it on the whole party 24/7 if needed) on my pet and me are more usefull most of the time, as the "mage armor" continues when wildshaped ;) ciao martin m. and mage armour is somewhat a given. i prep like, 5 a day :D