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windmarkbob 06-18-06, 07:05 PM	Okay, ya'll have convinced me the earlier idea was a baaaad idea. So I've rethought it a little and am putting it to you again for comments, please. The goal is to have a decent front line and second line combatant (primarily second rank), with decent rogue skills and finally qualifications to become a Justiciar. Human st 12 dx 15 co 12 in 14 wi 10 ch 12 Rog 1 Combat Reflexes Deft Opportunist 1d6 Sneak Attack Trapfinding Ftr 1 Dodge Ftr 2 Expert Tactician Ftr 3 Mobility Ftr 4 Opportunistic Tactician, +1 Dex Rog 2 Evasion Rng 1 Track Wild Empathy Favored Enemy Ftr 5 Skill Focus - Gather Intelligence, +1 Charisma Thanks, Bob
paigeoliver 06-18-06, 10:05 PM	You can't take non-PHB feats until 3rd level.
Iswald 06-18-06, 10:07 PM	Rog 1 Combat Reflexes Deft Opportunist 1d6 Sneak Attack Trapfinding Ftr 1 Dodge Ftr 2 Expert Tactician Ftr 3 Mobility You should be taking mobility as your fighter 2 bonus feat and have no feats when you reach fighter 3, though the +1 dex from fighter 4 should be at fighter 3. Ftr 4 Opportunistic Tactician, +1 Dex I don't know where opportunistic tactician is from, but it's not listed as core. You'd have to find access on an AR or gain it from a meta-org or special mission. Ftr 5 Skill Focus - Gather Intelligence, +1 Charisma You would only be 8th level at fighter five, so you couldn't take skill focus for another level yet. You should probably either not take fighter 5, since it only gives +1 BAB, or you should continue to fighter 6 for the +1 to all saves and another feat.
DuctShuiTengu 06-18-06, 10:27 PM	You would only be 8th level at fighter five, so you couldn't take skill focus for another level yet. You should probably either not take fighter 5, since it only gives +1 BAB, or you should continue to fighter 6 for the +1 to all saves and another feat. The 5th level of fighter should be entirely superfluous in this build. He skipped taking a feat at 6th level, so Skill Focus can go there, and with 4 BAB from Fighter, and 1 each from the levels of Ranger and Rogue, he meets the other big level-dependent prereq for Justicar. With 2 levels of Rogue and 1 of Ranger, the skills shouldn't be a problem either. Other thoughts- I probably wouldn't put 3 feats into AoO's, since I haven't seen them that often, but that may just be the DMs (or mods) I tend to play with. That said, if you're looking for AoOs that much, I'd suggest getting a Spiked Chain for the versatility (in theory at least, armor spikes and a reach weapon could work as well, though then you have to enchant them seperately) Personally, I'd probably snag a third level of Rogue somewhere in there for the extra D6 of sneak damage, though that depends on how often you'll be able to use it. As a side note, picking Dodge up at first level and Mobility at second (or going ahead and grabbing Skill Focus right off the bat) gets you around the problem of not being able to take non-PHB feats until 3rd level without forcing you to take any feats you weren't interested in.
ShinAkuma2 06-18-06, 10:41 PM	Other thoughts- I probably wouldn't put 3 feats into AoO's, since I haven't seen them that often, but that may just be the DMs (or mods) I tend to play with. It's true...Unless you've got a very forgetful/unaware DM, or you can somehow force AoOs (like disarming...either fetch your weapon and provoke, or fight unarmed and provoke) AoOs don't happen very often.
windmarkbob 06-19-06, 12:04 AM	Reworked without so many AOA feats, and added a feat that will hopefully give myself and the rest of the party some AOA opportunities. Doing it this way will keep my from losing focus with the ranger class, just means I constantly pay double for the survival skill. By the way, you really have no idea how much your critiques and comments are helping me. Thanks bunches, I do appreciate it. Bob Human st 12 dx 15 co 12 in 14 wi 10 ch 12 Rog 1 Combat Reflexes Expertise 1d6 Sneak Attack Trapfinding Ftr 1 Improved Trip Ftr 2 Expert Tactician + Skill Focus: Gather Intelligence Ftr 3 +1 Dex Rog 2 Evasion Rogue 3 2d6 Sneak Attack + Trap Sense +1 + Track Thanks, Bob
kjenks 06-19-06, 11:09 AM	You called it Expertise instead of Combat Expertise -- are you sure you're using the 3.5e PH? That feat changed names from 3e to 3.5e.
windmarkbob 06-19-06, 11:16 AM	You called it Expertise instead of Combat Expertise -- are you sure you're using the 3.5e PH? That feat changed names from 3e to 3.5e. Yes, I just got lazy in my typing...goofed on the gather information too, by calling it gather intelligence. Bob