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| lod_leader200303-14-07, 06:20 PM | Hi. I have played in a few Dungeons and Dragons Living Greyhawk events, but I am by no means a "pro." I have a question, but I can't find the answer to it! It's buggin me, because it's about a character class I want to play. The Drunken Master class. Does anyone know if it is an option to play as this class in the Living Greyhawk Campaign? And if so, what do I need to do to be able to become a Drunken Master (besides meeting the requirements listed). Do I need to contact my local Triad, (I've located the website already) or what? I think I need some kind of Campaign Documentation, but I am not sure if I actually do, or what I need, or where to get it. Any help I would appreciate. Thanks! ~A frustrated Player of D&D v. 3.5~ P.s. Thanks. lol. |
| Cynric03-14-07, 06:23 PM | You can play a drunken master, but you need campaign documentation to qualify. It is listed on a few AR's I have seen but I am not sure if they were regionals or not. The best bet would be to have a look through your regions meta-orgs and see if can be gained through one of them. Failing that, you would need a special mission from your triad. |
| lod_leader200303-14-07, 06:24 PM | Thank you! I'll keep lookin! It HAS to be out there, somewhere! :D |
| lod_leader200303-14-07, 06:30 PM | My triad's website has a few broken links. :confused: So...now I have another question. Are some classes only available to be taken in certain regions? :eek: |
| lod_leader200303-14-07, 06:37 PM | Looked in the LGCS and it says I need it needs campaign documentation, eitehr on an Ar or from a Metaorg. Now my only problem is which one! Are there any Drunken Master Players out there who can help shed some light? Thanks. :embarrass |
| lod_leader200303-14-07, 06:38 PM | You can play a drunken master, but you need campaign documentation to qualify. It is listed on a few AR's I have seen but I am not sure if they were regionals or not. The best bet would be to have a look through your regions meta-orgs and see if can be gained through one of them. Failing that, you would need a special mission from your triad. I guess I could ask for a special mission, if there is no other way. Is this way the easiest, in your opinion? |
| Jay_Ibero_91103-14-07, 06:49 PM | My triad's website has a few broken links. :confused: So...now I have another question. Are some classes only available to be taken in certain regions? :eek: All open base classes and prestige classes are available in any region, provided you can meet the "special" requirements some of them have. Some regions do have their own special prestige classes, usually obtained through local meta-orgs. I guess I could ask for a special mission, if there is no other way. Is this way the easiest, in your opinion? Special mission is the most direct way to get access to a class. Not always the easiest though...as it can take some time to get your special mission request filled. |
| lod_leader200303-15-07, 10:34 AM | Thank You for your replies! :) Especially you, Jay_Iberno_911! That helps a lot. Have a great day, everyone! :P :eek: |
| lod_leader200303-15-07, 10:41 AM | Guess what I found? The Drunken Master is apparently in the Complete Warrior D&D Supplemental book. Guess I'll go take a look at THAT-see the requirements, buy the book, get it all noted on my AR. Thanks again! ~I'm done w/this thread now. TY ALL for your help!~ |
| kenobi6503-15-07, 10:50 AM | Guess what I found? The Drunken Master is apparently in the Complete Warrior D&D Supplemental book. Yes, that's where the class write-up appears. However, the fact remains that it's still not an Open prestige class in LG. It's not closed, either, so you'd still need to get access to be able to take it. |
| taylorj03-15-07, 11:10 AM | Yes, that's where the class write-up appears. However, the fact remains that it's still not an Open prestige class in LG. It's not closed, either, so you'd still need to get access to be able to take it. You know, there used to be a simple term for stuff like that... what was it... oh yeah: Limited. :D |
| lod_leader200303-15-07, 03:17 PM | Guess I was a little hasty. Yeesh! It sure is a lot of work. Okay, so you said it is limited, which I understand. I need Campaign documentation, or have it listed on my AR. But it's agonizingly painstakingly crazy out there! I am trying to do research to see what adventure I have to run in, etc. to become a drunken master. I don't know if it is a regional prestige class either. So, my main problems are these: 1. Is it a regional prestige class? (I.E., Metaorg Class) In the LGCS 597CY it says, specifically "This class requires campaign documentation, such as an AR entry or metaorg." so...a simple question, which I hope will help even more.... Does anyone know exactly what I must do to become a Drunken Master? I understand every requirement from the book, but what I REALLY NEED to understand is this: What must I do to become a Drunken Master? I haven not been able to find any other information about the "other requirements". The "other requirements" are: Other: Evasion ability, must be chosen by existing drunken masters and survive night of revelry among them without being incarcerated, poisoned, or extraordinarily embarrassed. This second part is unclear: what does it mean "chosen by other drunken masters"? Is there an adventure I need to run in to become a drunken master, or do I just need to have my PC take these actions....:confused: :weep: Is there a specific adventure I need to run in? Or, any ideas on how to meet the requirements? Your help is appreciated, more than you know! |
| taylorj03-15-07, 03:56 PM | But it's agonizingly painstakingly crazy out there! I am trying to do research to see what adventure I have to run in, etc. to become a drunken master. I have no idea how to find out which one to play in. I don't know if it is a regional prestige class either. So, my main problems are these: 1. Is it a regional prestige class? (I.E., Metaorg Class) 2. Do I need an invitation in-game from an NPC in a certain adventure? 3. Can another Drunken Master PC Invite my Character to become a drunken master? In the LGCS 597CY it says, specifically "This class requires campaign documentation, such as an AR entry or metaorg." Expect constant frustration when shopping around for Limited prestige classes. Most regions seem to go out of their way to obfuscate the information regarding what prestige classes their meta-organizations give access to, precisely to avoid this kind of thing. For example, I'm given to understand that Keoland may be a good place to start looking. Can I document that information in any way that would guarantee it? Of course not. By the same token, nobody is likely to directly reveal what PrC access a given adventure offers. You eventually become adept at reading between the lines of the blurb. For example, in your case, you would want to keep an eye out for scenarios involving beer. You would have no guarantee, even then, that you would actually get what you're looking for. The only way to absolutely guarantee that you get access to a Limited PrC is to request a "special mission" from your Triad. Of course, they can say no, or just take forever to process it... Your best bet is to not plan a build around a Limited PrC unless you know about a meta-org which grants access. It annoys me to, but hey, what are you gonna do? :banghead: |
| kenobi6503-15-07, 04:37 PM | This second part is unclear: what does it mean "chosen by other drunken masters"? Is there an adventure I need to run in to become a drunken master, or do I just need to have my PC take these actions....:confused: :weep: Is there a specific adventure I need to run in? That last bit, is, indeed, where the "limited" access comes in. As others have described, it's more than just saying "my PC does this", even if you get a DM who's willing to sign your AR to that effect. You have to actually have a document from the campaign staff that says, "you may take Drunken Master." In practice, you'd get that access in one of three ways. 1) Adventure access. It is possible that you could play an adventure that would give you an AR item that says something like, "You spent a night drinking with the Masters of the Broken Bottle. This gives you access to the Drunken Master prestige class." However (and this is the frustrating part)...it is considered cheating to tell folks what adventures might give that kind of access! Someone telling you, "Oh, you want to be a Drunken Master? Make sure you play COR7-XX!" is against RPGA rules. (Reading between the lines of the blurb, as taylorj suggests, is certainly legal, but may not be fool-proof.) 2) Metaorganizational access. Each region is allowed to give access to a small number of prestige classes via their metaorganizations. Unlike adventure access, it's *not* considered cheating for people to tell you, "Oh, you should join the Masters of the Broken Bottle* metaorg in Verbobonc!" However, if the metaorg you wish to join isn't in your region, it may be difficult for you to join that metaorg -- most regions require regional residency to join their metaorgs, and some require you to play one or more adventures from that region. And, since they're limited in how many PrCs they can offer via metaorgs, most regions will limit that access to PrCs that fit the flavor of the region. 3) Special mission access. As others have noted, probably the clearest path to the PrC, but getting a special mission is by no means guaranteed. * - Not a real Verbobonc metaorg. We don't want your besotted kind here! :D |
| lod_leader200303-15-07, 04:40 PM | Expect constant frustration when shopping around for Limited prestige classes. Most regions seem to go out of their way to obfuscate the information regarding what prestige classes their meta-organizations give access to, precisely to avoid this kind of thing. For example, I'm given to understand that Keoland may be a good place to start looking. Can I document that information in any way that would guarantee it? Of course not. By the same token, nobody is likely to directly reveal what PrC access a given adventure offers. You eventually become adept at reading between the lines of the blurb. For example, in your case, you would want to keep an eye out for scenarios involving beer. You would have no guarantee, even then, that you would actually get what you're looking for. The only way to absolutely guarantee that you get access to a Limited PrC is to request a "special mission" from your Triad. Of course, they can say no, or just take forever to process it... Your best bet is to not plan a build around a Limited PrC unless you know about a meta-org which grants access. It annoys me to, but hey, what are you gonna do? :banghead: you seem to know about what I've experienced! So...you have a PrC? :D Thank you for this information-I'll check out Keoland. I really want to be a Drunken Master, and I can tell I am gonna have to work hard at it! Of course, I am not going to be ridiculously silly about drinking-my character will sip from a teeny cup of concentrated alchohol. Better than obnoxious annoyingness anyways. |
| lod_leader200303-15-07, 04:41 PM | That last bit, is, indeed, where the "limited" access comes in. As others have described, it's more than just saying "my PC does this", even if you get a DM who's willing to sign your AR to that effect. You have to actually have a document from the campaign staff that says, "you may take Drunken Master." In practice, you'd get that access in one of three ways. 1) Adventure access. It is possible that you could play an adventure that would give you an AR item that says something like, "You spent a night drinking with the Masters of the Broken Bottle. This gives you access to the Drunken Master prestige class." However (and this is the frustrating part)...it is considered cheating to tell folks what adventures might give that kind of access! Someone telling you, "Oh, you want to be a Drunken Master? Make sure you play COR7-XX!" is against RPGA rules. (Reading between the lines of the blurb, as taylorj suggests, is certainly legal, but may not be fool-proof.) 2) Metaorganizational access. Each region is allowed to give access to a small number of prestige classes via their metaorganizations. Unlike adventure access, it's *not* considered cheating for people to tell you, "Oh, you should join the Masters of the Broken Bottle* metaorg in Verbobonc!" However, if the metaorg you wish to join isn't in your region, it may be difficult for you to join that metaorg -- most regions require regional residency to join their metaorgs, and some require you to play one or more adventures from that region. And, since they're limited in how many PrCs they can offer via metaorgs, most regions will limit that access to PrCs that fit the flavor of the region. 3) Special mission access. As others have noted, probably the clearest path to the PrC, but getting a special mission is by no means guaranteed. * - Not a real Verbobonc metaorg. We don't want your besotted kind here! :D TY TY TY TY TY!! I dont have time to read all of this i skimmed thru it, since i gtg right now. Ill reply l8ter, ty again! bye! |
| taylorj03-15-07, 04:47 PM | you seem to know about what I've experienced! So...you have a PrC? :D My personal Grailquest involves the War Weaver PrC. It's out there. Somewhere. Hiding from me. :tantrum: An interesting exercise for me though was tracking down the various meta-orgs that give access to Mindbender in regions here and there. I'd always wondered where everyone was getting access to that PrC! The one time I hunted down access to a Limited feat I wanted it was by the "read the blurb" method. So it does work, if the module author is on your side. Sometimes they aren't... |
| ithardin03-15-07, 04:59 PM | There was a year 5 module that gave access to Mindbender as well. |
| lod_leader200303-15-07, 05:34 PM | There was a year 5 module that gave access to Mindbender as well. I see. |
| taylorj03-15-07, 05:49 PM | There was a year 5 module that gave access to Mindbender as well. That's one of the "fun" parts of the module obfuscation. :rolleyes: "Oh man, you were looking for X? You should have played retired mod Y!" :OMG! :headexplo Eventually you have to start seeing the inherent silliness in it all, or you go mad. |
| UMiskatonic03-15-07, 08:00 PM | Or, accept the fact that LG asks you and your character to develop according to the adventures they experience, and not your predetermined sixteen level plan. |
| lod_leader200303-16-07, 10:37 AM | Thank you for all the replies. you all have certainly been helpful. I think that's about answered all of my questions. Thanks, again! I will do my best to get the Drunken Master PrC. I'll work so hard for it, I KNOW I WILL Get it. That's how far I'll go for the Drunken Master Class! thanks, all, for your help. You're really nice people! ;) :) :D :cool: 9i read all your posts-wonderful descriptions. Now maybe to start a post about "funny" D&D PC choices? I'll save that for later! :P Cya! |
| lod_leader200303-16-07, 10:38 AM | Or, accept the fact that LG asks you and your character to develop according to the adventures they experience, and not your predetermined sixteen level plan. lol, I DID have a 16 lvl plan! :eek: |
| taylorj03-16-07, 11:20 AM | I read all your posts-wonderful descriptions. Now maybe to start a post about "funny" D&D PC choices? Arcane caster in a recent mod: "I don't CARE how many times I get access to Alienist, I'm NOT TAKING THE CLASS!!" The funny part was the mod we were playing didn't have anything to do with Alienists or access to that PrC. He just misinterpreted the response to a divination. Access to that PrC is apparently thrown at you every mod or so where he's from... |
| lod_leader200303-16-07, 01:37 PM | :D Prestige classes are nice-there are so many options to choose from, I don't know why anyone would stick with the core classes in the Players Handbook! You know your DM's evil when: 1. The last thief who attacked you did +20d6 damage of sneak attack! 2. The Vorpal Sword+1 you thought you had is really a Cursed Item that cuts YOUR head off on a Crit. 3. Those "Boots of Jumping" you bought are really just regular boots. 4. Armies of monsters try to attack you, leading to a mad, frenzied run with your friends and your PC's. 5. A lvl 20 Black Dragon attacks you from the air for NO REASON everytime you argue with your DM! |