Are enemies corners? [Archive] - Wizards Community

Are enemies corners? [Archive] - Wizards Community

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Ramacass
01-18-07, 01:05 AM So you can't move diagonally around corners, ok. But in a recent session someone posed the question can you move diagonally past enimies? Do enemies count as corners? The DM ruled that they don't, count as corners that is ,and that his Monster could move diaganolly past our PC's who had him penned in on all 4 sides with the diagonal spaces open.

And the monster moved out on a diagonal.

Opinions?
LGMoses
01-18-07, 01:11 AM no but corners are the enemies. on the grid below, the 8's are empty squares, the P's are PC's, and the O is the Orc BBEG who can stand up to the 4 fighters pinning him in. The orc CAN move onto the 8's via a 5 foot step.

8P8
POP
8P8
Arvagor
01-18-07, 02:25 AM The DM and the player should have kept reading (meaning, no ruling was necessary, the rule is already spelled out). :) On page 146 of the PHB, it states, "You can’t move diagonally past a corner (even by taking a 5-foot step). You can move diagonally past a creature, even an opponent."

Also, look at some of the example pictures on page 144 -- Tordek is moving diagonally past the hobgoblin's square without issue.
Ramacass
01-18-07, 07:48 AM Thanks, I just looked right past it oops
UMiskatonic
01-18-07, 05:34 PM While you might need a five foot space to fight in, you are not, personally, a five foot cube (I hope). It's not quite the same.
clannagh
01-18-07, 05:38 PM While you might need a five foot space to fight in, you are not, personally, a five foot cube (I hope). It's not quite the same.

exactly

whereas the brick wall totally fills the entire square right to the corner .. the halfing only takes up a few percent and is moving about within that 5' area .. he doesnt inflate like a balloon to fill it
kenobi65
01-18-07, 05:52 PM the halfing only takes up a few percent and is moving about within that 5' area .. he doesnt inflate like a balloon to fill it

Though that'd be neat to see. Sort of like Violet Beauregard.
LGMoses
01-18-07, 11:15 PM While you might need a five foot space to fight in, you are not, personally, a five foot cube (I hope). It's not quite the same.

Hey! Whats wrong with being a gelatinous cube?!:gel:
Frumpkis
01-21-07, 03:08 AM While you might need a five foot space to fight in, you are not, personally, a five foot cube (I hope). It's not quite the same.

Hehehe. Thanks for giving me my laugh for the day. :D

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Ramacass 01-18-07, 01:05 AM	So you can't move diagonally around corners, ok. But in a recent session someone posed the question can you move diagonally past enimies? Do enemies count as corners? The DM ruled that they don't, count as corners that is ,and that his Monster could move diaganolly past our PC's who had him penned in on all 4 sides with the diagonal spaces open. And the monster moved out on a diagonal. Opinions?
LGMoses 01-18-07, 01:11 AM	no but corners are the enemies. on the grid below, the 8's are empty squares, the P's are PC's, and the O is the Orc BBEG who can stand up to the 4 fighters pinning him in. The orc CAN move onto the 8's via a 5 foot step. 8P8 POP 8P8
Arvagor 01-18-07, 02:25 AM	The DM and the player should have kept reading (meaning, no ruling was necessary, the rule is already spelled out). :) On page 146 of the PHB, it states, "You can’t move diagonally past a corner (even by taking a 5-foot step). You can move diagonally past a creature, even an opponent." Also, look at some of the example pictures on page 144 -- Tordek is moving diagonally past the hobgoblin's square without issue.
Ramacass 01-18-07, 07:48 AM	Thanks, I just looked right past it oops
UMiskatonic 01-18-07, 05:34 PM	While you might need a five foot space to fight in, you are not, personally, a five foot cube (I hope). It's not quite the same.
clannagh 01-18-07, 05:38 PM	While you might need a five foot space to fight in, you are not, personally, a five foot cube (I hope). It's not quite the same. exactly whereas the brick wall totally fills the entire square right to the corner .. the halfing only takes up a few percent and is moving about within that 5' area .. he doesnt inflate like a balloon to fill it
kenobi65 01-18-07, 05:52 PM	the halfing only takes up a few percent and is moving about within that 5' area .. he doesnt inflate like a balloon to fill it Though that'd be neat to see. Sort of like Violet Beauregard.
LGMoses 01-18-07, 11:15 PM	While you might need a five foot space to fight in, you are not, personally, a five foot cube (I hope). It's not quite the same. Hey! Whats wrong with being a gelatinous cube?!:gel:
Frumpkis 01-21-07, 03:08 AM	While you might need a five foot space to fight in, you are not, personally, a five foot cube (I hope). It's not quite the same. Hehehe. Thanks for giving me my laugh for the day. :D