Class Feature Substitutions [Archive] - Wizards Community

Class Feature Substitutions [Archive] - Wizards Community

Post/Author/DateTime Post
Cainin
07-20-07, 10:12 AM I'm sure that this is a dumb question. But I haven't played LG for years and am thinking about getting back into it.

Are the PH II substitutions legal? I looked through the current LG Guidelines and couldn't see mention of it either way.
Redfist
07-20-07, 10:49 AM According to the guidelines (LGCS), if there is no mention of a feature (feat, prestige class, item access, etc) it is "neither open nor closed" which means you have to get AR access to it.
Banor
07-20-07, 10:50 AM When a rule option is not cited in the LGCS, the said option is closed until the player unlock it via Campaign Certification. The said option is usually called NONC (non open, non close).
TetsujinOni
07-20-07, 11:28 AM I'm sure that this is a dumb question. But I haven't played LG for years and am thinking about getting back into it.

Are the PH II substitutions legal? I looked through the current LG Guidelines and couldn't see mention of it either way.

All rules options are closed unless you have campaign documentation. The LGCS is campaign documentation, which opens a large number of rule options (appendix 4).
Demoyn
07-20-07, 11:32 AM In the bandit kingdoms, at least, most of the PHBII options are attainable through meta-organizations. None are open without some form of access documentation, however.
myshkingfh
07-21-07, 12:00 PM I've been getting a lot of class feature substitutions on recent (year 7) ARs.
CdrcJsn
07-21-07, 01:08 PM A lot of regions are in the process of updating their metaorgs. Most of the alternate class features are potentially available through them. You might want to check with your local triad if they're updating metaorgs.

If not available through metaorgs, you can always try getting a special mission.

Also note that the Retrain class feature option in PHBII is now LG legal (spend 4TUs and 100gp/new level).

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Cainin 07-20-07, 10:12 AM	I'm sure that this is a dumb question. But I haven't played LG for years and am thinking about getting back into it. Are the PH II substitutions legal? I looked through the current LG Guidelines and couldn't see mention of it either way.
Redfist 07-20-07, 10:49 AM	According to the guidelines (LGCS), if there is no mention of a feature (feat, prestige class, item access, etc) it is "neither open nor closed" which means you have to get AR access to it.
Banor 07-20-07, 10:50 AM	When a rule option is not cited in the LGCS, the said option is closed until the player unlock it via Campaign Certification. The said option is usually called NONC (non open, non close).
TetsujinOni 07-20-07, 11:28 AM	I'm sure that this is a dumb question. But I haven't played LG for years and am thinking about getting back into it. Are the PH II substitutions legal? I looked through the current LG Guidelines and couldn't see mention of it either way. All rules options are closed unless you have campaign documentation. The LGCS is campaign documentation, which opens a large number of rule options (appendix 4).
Demoyn 07-20-07, 11:32 AM	In the bandit kingdoms, at least, most of the PHBII options are attainable through meta-organizations. None are open without some form of access documentation, however.
myshkingfh 07-21-07, 12:00 PM	I've been getting a lot of class feature substitutions on recent (year 7) ARs.
CdrcJsn 07-21-07, 01:08 PM	A lot of regions are in the process of updating their metaorgs. Most of the alternate class features are potentially available through them. You might want to check with your local triad if they're updating metaorgs. If not available through metaorgs, you can always try getting a special mission. Also note that the Retrain class feature option in PHBII is now LG legal (spend 4TUs and 100gp/new level).