Domains and LG [Archive] - Wizards Community

Domains and LG [Archive] - Wizards Community

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kegdrainer
04-19-06, 03:53 PM Looking over the Living Greyhawk Compilation, I was trying to find suggested Domains for LG but had no luck finding them. I have a druid that I plan on making a MoR and plan on taking a level of cleric in order to get heavy armor and the 5 ranks in K:Rel. (Yes, I know it is not optimized but a bird spitting out sunbeams might be fun.) I was wanting to start crafting wondous and maybe armor/weapons in the future.

Any suggestions? I have been thinking of Magic or Sun and Good domains.
redgamer
04-19-06, 04:50 PM What is the Living Greyhawk compilation?

There are no official suggested domanion but if you want personal suggestions you can ask for them here. There are however mandatory choices. A cleric must follow a deity from the Living Greyahw Dieties Document. Each diety offers specific domains. You must choose two domains from the same deity. Your alignment must be appropriate to your diety. All the details are on the first few pages of Living Greyahw Dieties Document which you can download from this site.
kenobi65
04-19-06, 04:57 PM I'm not sure I understand your question. "Suggested domains"? Are you looking for which deities offer those domains? If so, you need the LG Deities document, which you can download from the "Campaign Documents" section of this page:
http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=lg/welcome

Also, note that, in Living Greyhawk, clerics must worship a particular deity, and take two of the domains that that particular deity offers.

Finally, what are you referring to by "MoR"? A prestige class? If so (I don't recognize the abbreviation), it may be limited or restricted, just FYI.
Arvagor
04-19-06, 05:13 PM Finally, what are you referring to by "MoR"? A prestige class? If so (I don't recognize the abbreviation), it may be limited or restricted, just FYI.Probably Master of Radiance, from Libris Mortis (and it is a limited class...)
kenobi65
04-19-06, 05:20 PM Probably Master of Radiance, from Libris Mortis (and it is a limited class...)

Ah, yeah, that's a good one. And, yeah, it's limited. Which means you'd need to be granted "access" to it, through campaign documentation, in order to be able to take the class. This is most typically given on an Adventure Records, though other official sources (such as membership in a metaorganization) might provide access, as well.

The problem, of course, there isn't any guarantee that you will be able to get access to a Limited prestige class...you might never find an adventure that gives access through an AR, or a metaorg that provides it. As a rule of thumb, it's not a great idea to build a PC in hopes of getting access to a Limited PrC (or feat, or spell, or whatever), unless (a) you're really sure you'll be able to get that access, or (b) the PC works fairly well even without the Limited item.
PaulH
04-19-06, 07:00 PM Hi

Ehlonna seems to be good bet for you.
Domains: Animal, Celerity, Good, Plant, Purification, Sun.

Ffarlaghn grants Travel & Celerity, both good domain powers.

Boccob grants Magic, Force (reroll 1 dam dice/day, + Magic Missile), Rune (Scribe Scroll feat), etc.

Velnius is another good one - Travel Domain power is very useful, and if it wasn't for Feat prereqs Storm Lord would be good PrC for you. (Have started Bright Lands Clr Travel/Windstorm domains just for this. You even get full spell progression.

Prereqs, if you need them:

Fort +4, 3rd lvl divine spells, Endurance, Gt Fort, Wpn Focus (any spear/javelin), survived lightning bolt.

Cheers
Paul H
kegdrainer
04-19-06, 09:59 PM Thank you for the suggestions PaulH. I got access to it so I was thinking of taking a level in Cleric in order to have him in Wildwood Full Plate and maybe Contemplative later to finish him out. No 8th level spells but Sunbeam 3 times a day sounds good. I was wondering if the Magic Domain is worth taking over the Sun domain since there are no dieties that offer both. Lydia sounds like a winner with Sun and Travel domains.
opa
04-20-06, 02:56 AM I have a druid, and I just don't think I would go that way..
I suppose if you are encountering mainly undead in your region...
I am a roleplayer though and it does sound like a cool idea..

Druids have a couple strengths , one of which is wildshaping which you seem to like and you lose the benefit of many items when wildshaped.., the wildwood plate 7 armor 2 dex (limited) is only going to give you 2 ac over dragonhide breastplate at the cost of a caster level for your druid spells, and a level for your wildshaping...to take cleric..whose turning ability will be near useless to you , because you are so far behind, you are also only getting 2+int skill points, if you really want to go master of radiance, I would just cross class the know religion, you get twice as many base skill points as a druid anyway.. and you can have know religion 5 at druid 7 when you get your 4th level spells.. you are going to dead end your wildshape progression when you go master of radiance, so you might want to get to druid 8 so you can wildshape to large creatures, before you go master of radiance, you'll still be losing 1 caster level on your druid spells at MoR 1 but at least it isn't 2..
and I would start concentrating on items that will be usable in both your wildshaped and normal forms.. perhaps amulets of natural armor, or cloaks of displacement
you are also going to end your animal companions progression.. and it will fall behind pretty quickly at higher apl's
since you already will be losing a caster level losing 8th level spells you might as well lose 2, so I probably would take Beastmaster 1 to get my animal companion a boost to keep it in play for a while..

so if you weren't going to stay druid 15 ( which is very powerful)
I would go Druid 8( large wildshape, 5th level spells)
beastmaster 1 (makes your animal companion competitive for a few more levels)..(practiced caster)
druid 9 ( to get 5th level spells before hitting the missed level at MoR1)
master of radiance 5

cleric just doesnt seem worth it ..

Opa
Reylance
04-20-06, 01:51 PM I just had a character become a Master of Radiance (had to take it at 9th level, because skill points weren't allocated appropriately when I got access).

Your current plan is suboptimal. Without staying straight druid, you're losing on the wildshape/combat focus, giving you only the spellcasting focus. And with that, you're going to lose 2 levels, one for Cleric 1, one for Master of Radiance 1.

I'd suggest taking the prestige class after Druid 8, so that you'd have your Large wildshape, 4th level spells, and at the breakpoint for BAB and Fort/Will saves. You'd only lose 1 level of spellcasting.

The advantage of taking Cleric is heavy armor proficiency and additional spells for item creation (e.g. you could craft a Luckstone).

I'll point out that Sunbeam is a 7th level druid spell. You'll eventually be able to get this benefit without the prestige class.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
kegdrainer 04-19-06, 03:53 PM	Looking over the Living Greyhawk Compilation, I was trying to find suggested Domains for LG but had no luck finding them. I have a druid that I plan on making a MoR and plan on taking a level of cleric in order to get heavy armor and the 5 ranks in K:Rel. (Yes, I know it is not optimized but a bird spitting out sunbeams might be fun.) I was wanting to start crafting wondous and maybe armor/weapons in the future. Any suggestions? I have been thinking of Magic or Sun and Good domains.
redgamer 04-19-06, 04:50 PM	What is the Living Greyhawk compilation? There are no official suggested domanion but if you want personal suggestions you can ask for them here. There are however mandatory choices. A cleric must follow a deity from the Living Greyahw Dieties Document. Each diety offers specific domains. You must choose two domains from the same deity. Your alignment must be appropriate to your diety. All the details are on the first few pages of Living Greyahw Dieties Document which you can download from this site.
kenobi65 04-19-06, 04:57 PM	I'm not sure I understand your question. "Suggested domains"? Are you looking for which deities offer those domains? If so, you need the LG Deities document, which you can download from the "Campaign Documents" section of this page: http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=lg/welcome Also, note that, in Living Greyhawk, clerics must worship a particular deity, and take two of the domains that that particular deity offers. Finally, what are you referring to by "MoR"? A prestige class? If so (I don't recognize the abbreviation), it may be limited or restricted, just FYI.
Arvagor 04-19-06, 05:13 PM	Finally, what are you referring to by "MoR"? A prestige class? If so (I don't recognize the abbreviation), it may be limited or restricted, just FYI.Probably Master of Radiance, from Libris Mortis (and it is a limited class...)
kenobi65 04-19-06, 05:20 PM	Probably Master of Radiance, from Libris Mortis (and it is a limited class...) Ah, yeah, that's a good one. And, yeah, it's limited. Which means you'd need to be granted "access" to it, through campaign documentation, in order to be able to take the class. This is most typically given on an Adventure Records, though other official sources (such as membership in a metaorganization) might provide access, as well. The problem, of course, there isn't any guarantee that you will be able to get access to a Limited prestige class...you might never find an adventure that gives access through an AR, or a metaorg that provides it. As a rule of thumb, it's not a great idea to build a PC in hopes of getting access to a Limited PrC (or feat, or spell, or whatever), unless (a) you're really sure you'll be able to get that access, or (b) the PC works fairly well even without the Limited item.
PaulH 04-19-06, 07:00 PM	Hi Ehlonna seems to be good bet for you. Domains: Animal, Celerity, Good, Plant, Purification, Sun. Ffarlaghn grants Travel & Celerity, both good domain powers. Boccob grants Magic, Force (reroll 1 dam dice/day, + Magic Missile), Rune (Scribe Scroll feat), etc. Velnius is another good one - Travel Domain power is very useful, and if it wasn't for Feat prereqs Storm Lord would be good PrC for you. (Have started Bright Lands Clr Travel/Windstorm domains just for this. You even get full spell progression. Prereqs, if you need them: Fort +4, 3rd lvl divine spells, Endurance, Gt Fort, Wpn Focus (any spear/javelin), survived lightning bolt. Cheers Paul H
kegdrainer 04-19-06, 09:59 PM	Thank you for the suggestions PaulH. I got access to it so I was thinking of taking a level in Cleric in order to have him in Wildwood Full Plate and maybe Contemplative later to finish him out. No 8th level spells but Sunbeam 3 times a day sounds good. I was wondering if the Magic Domain is worth taking over the Sun domain since there are no dieties that offer both. Lydia sounds like a winner with Sun and Travel domains.
opa 04-20-06, 02:56 AM	I have a druid, and I just don't think I would go that way.. I suppose if you are encountering mainly undead in your region... I am a roleplayer though and it does sound like a cool idea.. Druids have a couple strengths , one of which is wildshaping which you seem to like and you lose the benefit of many items when wildshaped.., the wildwood plate 7 armor 2 dex (limited) is only going to give you 2 ac over dragonhide breastplate at the cost of a caster level for your druid spells, and a level for your wildshaping...to take cleric..whose turning ability will be near useless to you , because you are so far behind, you are also only getting 2+int skill points, if you really want to go master of radiance, I would just cross class the know religion, you get twice as many base skill points as a druid anyway.. and you can have know religion 5 at druid 7 when you get your 4th level spells.. you are going to dead end your wildshape progression when you go master of radiance, so you might want to get to druid 8 so you can wildshape to large creatures, before you go master of radiance, you'll still be losing 1 caster level on your druid spells at MoR 1 but at least it isn't 2.. and I would start concentrating on items that will be usable in both your wildshaped and normal forms.. perhaps amulets of natural armor, or cloaks of displacement you are also going to end your animal companions progression.. and it will fall behind pretty quickly at higher apl's since you already will be losing a caster level losing 8th level spells you might as well lose 2, so I probably would take Beastmaster 1 to get my animal companion a boost to keep it in play for a while.. so if you weren't going to stay druid 15 ( which is very powerful) I would go Druid 8( large wildshape, 5th level spells) beastmaster 1 (makes your animal companion competitive for a few more levels)..(practiced caster) druid 9 ( to get 5th level spells before hitting the missed level at MoR1) master of radiance 5 cleric just doesnt seem worth it .. Opa
Reylance 04-20-06, 01:51 PM	I just had a character become a Master of Radiance (had to take it at 9th level, because skill points weren't allocated appropriately when I got access). Your current plan is suboptimal. Without staying straight druid, you're losing on the wildshape/combat focus, giving you only the spellcasting focus. And with that, you're going to lose 2 levels, one for Cleric 1, one for Master of Radiance 1. I'd suggest taking the prestige class after Druid 8, so that you'd have your Large wildshape, 4th level spells, and at the breakpoint for BAB and Fort/Will saves. You'd only lose 1 level of spellcasting. The advantage of taking Cleric is heavy armor proficiency and additional spells for item creation (e.g. you could craft a Luckstone). I'll point out that Sunbeam is a 7th level druid spell. You'll eventually be able to get this benefit without the prestige class.