Elven Equipment... Standard? [Archive] - Wizards Community

Elven Equipment... Standard? [Archive] - Wizards Community

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Longthorn
09-08-05, 10:50 AM I recently gained access to several items including a masterwork Elven Lightblade and Elven Chain.

My question is: are these items considered standard equipment?

In other words can I upgrade these items to +1 using the LGCS as access?

As a secondary question is Elven Chain inherently masterwork or would it need to be noted on the AR as masterwork(to be upgradable)?

Thank you for any information you can share on this issue.
Namarus
09-08-05, 10:55 AM If memory serves anything not from the PHB and with some regards the DMG is standard.

You would need something like an AR access that allows you to upgrade an item a non-standard item. There are some of them floating around. For the Elven courtblade.

Elven chain is made of mithril, mithril items are automatically considered masterwork.
MaxDog
09-08-05, 02:09 PM From the LGCS 4.2:

Nonstandard items cannot be upgraded (by you, an
NPC or a favor in a mod). A nonstandard item is a magic
item that has an ability not normally present in the DMG
description of the item and/or additional rules to it.
An item made of special material is a standard item. So
for example, a cloak of resistance +2 that also gives a +10
to Hide is a nonstandard item while a +1 mithral chain
shirt is a standard item.

Table 7-3 on p.49 specifically lists Elven Chain as a standard item. I do not recall the description of the Elven Lightblade, but I don't think it fits the definition of "a magic item that has an abliltiy not normally present in the DMG description of the item and/or additional rules to it." For starters, it's not a magic item.
Genghis Cohen
09-10-05, 08:55 AM Masterwork Elven lightblades are upgradeable as if they were masterwork PHB weapons.

Elven chain is mithral. All mithral armor is masterwork, and is therefore upgradeable.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Longthorn 09-08-05, 10:50 AM	I recently gained access to several items including a masterwork Elven Lightblade and Elven Chain. My question is: are these items considered standard equipment? In other words can I upgrade these items to +1 using the LGCS as access? As a secondary question is Elven Chain inherently masterwork or would it need to be noted on the AR as masterwork(to be upgradable)? Thank you for any information you can share on this issue.
Namarus 09-08-05, 10:55 AM	If memory serves anything not from the PHB and with some regards the DMG is standard. You would need something like an AR access that allows you to upgrade an item a non-standard item. There are some of them floating around. For the Elven courtblade. Elven chain is made of mithril, mithril items are automatically considered masterwork.
MaxDog 09-08-05, 02:09 PM	From the LGCS 4.2: Nonstandard items cannot be upgraded (by you, an NPC or a favor in a mod). A nonstandard item is a magic item that has an ability not normally present in the DMG description of the item and/or additional rules to it. An item made of special material is a standard item. So for example, a cloak of resistance +2 that also gives a +10 to Hide is a nonstandard item while a +1 mithral chain shirt is a standard item. Table 7-3 on p.49 specifically lists Elven Chain as a standard item. I do not recall the description of the Elven Lightblade, but I don't think it fits the definition of "a magic item that has an abliltiy not normally present in the DMG description of the item and/or additional rules to it." For starters, it's not a magic item.
Genghis Cohen 09-10-05, 08:55 AM	Masterwork Elven lightblades are upgradeable as if they were masterwork PHB weapons. Elven chain is mithral. All mithral armor is masterwork, and is therefore upgradeable.