LG Open Base Class [Archive] - Wizards Community

LG Open Base Class [Archive] - Wizards Community

Post/Author/DateTime Post
hemlocke
04-07-07, 08:58 PM Hi, I'm new to running Living Greyhawk and had a player want to run a Dragon Shaman as his character...searching through the LGCS and forums here I can't find a clear answer on it...is the Dragon shaman a legal base class in Lg or not?
Thanks for your help.
DroidTrooper
04-07-07, 10:20 PM Dragon Shaman is in the not open/not closed status. Meaning it is a legal class to take, but you must gain access to it via special mission, AR access, or meta-org. It is not open by default.
Dr.Cornelius
04-12-07, 02:49 AM OK- I'll bite - does such access actually exist? Is there an adventure or metaorg that actually grants access or is the Dragon Shaman a purely theoretical option?

FYI - Duskblade falls into the same category. Word is that a few players have access, but it required playing a Gencon special module at APL 10 and accomplishing some objective.

So you have to be extra super duper special.
or extra well connected.
The_Jester
04-12-07, 10:20 AM Wouldn't that also only open it to that character? So there'd be no way of starting fresh and actually having a L15 X?
Rerednaw
04-12-07, 12:54 PM Wouldn't that also only open it to that character? So there'd be no way of starting fresh and actually having a L15 X?

As far as I know AR access works that way.

However I'll bet that as soon as 597 came out (and probably even before) the meta-orgs in some regions were also being re-written to allow classes such as duskblade and dragon shaman.

Still means you lose one level to something else, but that's liveable if you really want to play certain classes.
Sieylianna
04-12-07, 01:11 PM However I'll bet that as soon as 597 came out (and probably even before) the meta-orgs in some regions were also being re-written to allow classes such as duskblade and dragon shaman.

I'm responsible for one of the local meta-orgs and while we were told that racial substitution levels could be used where appropriate, no mention was made of non-standard base classes.

I noticed in looking through several hundred AR's for retraining options for multiple PCs, that I only had access to a handful of prestige classes (less than 5). Feats and spells were slightly better, but there are just so many of them, that it's hard to get what you want.

Ed
Dr.Cornelius
04-13-07, 03:02 AM Wouldn't that also only open it to that character? So there'd be no way of starting fresh and actually having a L15 X?It is my understanding that the AR allowed the receiving player to start a new character as a Duskblade. I heard this second hand - not sure of exactly how the AR was worded or if it was some kind of certificate, much like the RPGA reward cards.
boolean
04-14-07, 03:31 AM It is my understanding that the AR allowed the receiving player to start a new character as a Duskblade. I heard this second hand - not sure of exactly how the AR was worded or if it was some kind of certificate, much like the RPGA reward cards.

It was a separate certificate, but it was still tied to the specific character that played the module.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
hemlocke 04-07-07, 08:58 PM	Hi, I'm new to running Living Greyhawk and had a player want to run a Dragon Shaman as his character...searching through the LGCS and forums here I can't find a clear answer on it...is the Dragon shaman a legal base class in Lg or not? Thanks for your help.
DroidTrooper 04-07-07, 10:20 PM	Dragon Shaman is in the not open/not closed status. Meaning it is a legal class to take, but you must gain access to it via special mission, AR access, or meta-org. It is not open by default.
Dr.Cornelius 04-12-07, 02:49 AM	OK- I'll bite - does such access actually exist? Is there an adventure or metaorg that actually grants access or is the Dragon Shaman a purely theoretical option? FYI - Duskblade falls into the same category. Word is that a few players have access, but it required playing a Gencon special module at APL 10 and accomplishing some objective. So you have to be extra super duper special. or extra well connected.
The_Jester 04-12-07, 10:20 AM	Wouldn't that also only open it to that character? So there'd be no way of starting fresh and actually having a L15 X?
Rerednaw 04-12-07, 12:54 PM	Wouldn't that also only open it to that character? So there'd be no way of starting fresh and actually having a L15 X? As far as I know AR access works that way. However I'll bet that as soon as 597 came out (and probably even before) the meta-orgs in some regions were also being re-written to allow classes such as duskblade and dragon shaman. Still means you lose one level to something else, but that's liveable if you really want to play certain classes.
Sieylianna 04-12-07, 01:11 PM	However I'll bet that as soon as 597 came out (and probably even before) the meta-orgs in some regions were also being re-written to allow classes such as duskblade and dragon shaman. I'm responsible for one of the local meta-orgs and while we were told that racial substitution levels could be used where appropriate, no mention was made of non-standard base classes. I noticed in looking through several hundred AR's for retraining options for multiple PCs, that I only had access to a handful of prestige classes (less than 5). Feats and spells were slightly better, but there are just so many of them, that it's hard to get what you want. Ed
Dr.Cornelius 04-13-07, 03:02 AM	Wouldn't that also only open it to that character? So there'd be no way of starting fresh and actually having a L15 X?It is my understanding that the AR allowed the receiving player to start a new character as a Duskblade. I heard this second hand - not sure of exactly how the AR was worded or if it was some kind of certificate, much like the RPGA reward cards.
boolean 04-14-07, 03:31 AM	It is my understanding that the AR allowed the receiving player to start a new character as a Duskblade. I heard this second hand - not sure of exactly how the AR was worded or if it was some kind of certificate, much like the RPGA reward cards. It was a separate certificate, but it was still tied to the specific character that played the module.