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Redfist 09-22-06, 03:15 AM	And no - this isn't about the recent Dispel Confusion. :D My question is pretty simple. Let's say, for example, that I got access to upto a 6th level limited Bard or Cleric spell. Unfortunately, I am a Wizard. Looking at the spells in question, if I find a spell that is ALSO a Wizard spell, can I scribe that into my spellbook for later use? Thanks, Redfist
zigspatty 09-22-06, 06:24 PM	The answer actually IS in the newest Dispel Confusion.... Q: I have a bard character. If I find a spellbook that contains sorcerer/wizard spells, and some of them are bard spells as well, does purchasing the spellbook give me access to those spells? A: Yes. Even though you may not be able to cast the spells from the spellbook, as long as the spells are legible to the character, you have access to the spells that appear on that classes’ list. You're simply looking at the reverse situation. So the answer is yes... so long as you bought the spellbook, scroll, or whatnot. Patty
WotC_Tulach 09-22-06, 11:55 PM	You're simply looking at the reverse situation. So the answer is yes... so long as you bought the spellbook, scroll, or whatnot. Patty Patty is absolutely correct.
Iswald 09-23-06, 09:23 AM	Just to make sure that I have this right, a PC can learn any spell regardless of the type of spell that it is (cleric, ranger, paladin, druid, wizard, bard, blackguard, hexblade, etc) as long as it's on the PC's spell list, they have access and purchase the spell source (scroll or spellbook)? So, a wizard with arcane discipline (healing) could purchase a divine scroll of cure light wounds to copy into their spellbook. Or, a cleric could buy an arcane scroll of some limited spell to learn if it is also a cleric spell? Would this work with favors? So-and-so offers to teach you one druid spell of your choice from the following: frost breath, superior magic fang, perinarch or panacea? Or, would it only work if the favor was to sell a scroll or spellbook?
WotC_Tulach 09-23-06, 12:13 PM	Just to make sure that I have this right, a PC can learn any spell regardless of the type of spell that it is (cleric, ranger, paladin, druid, wizard, bard, blackguard, hexblade, etc) as long as it's on the PC's spell list, they have access and purchase the spell source (scroll or spellbook)? So, a wizard with arcane discipline (healing) could purchase a divine scroll of cure light wounds to copy into their spellbook. Or, a cleric could buy an arcane scroll of some limited spell to learn if it is also a cleric spell? This is actually a D&D rules question, as it really has nothing to do with access. What you're really asking is "If a character finds a scroll of a type they can't cast, can they learn the spell?" The following is not a campaign ruling, but merely my interpretation of the rules according to the PH, DMG, and FAQ: According to those sources, the difference between an arcane and divine scroll is simply who is able to use the item (cast the spell from it). Any class that has access to read magic and casts it on the scroll can understand the spell (but not necessarily cast it from the scroll). Once an item can be understood, you can gain access to it, as long as the spell appears on your spell list (the source - arcane or divine - doesn't matter). Would this work with favors? So-and-so offers to teach you one druid spell of your choice from the following: frost breath, superior magic fang, perinarch or panacea? Or, would it only work if the favor was to sell a scroll or spellbook? It depends on the wording of the favor. In your example, the answer is no, since they're only teaching you the druid versions of the spells. However, if you had a favor that said the same thing, but removed the word "druid" from the statement, the answer would be yes. The following would also work: Favor of the Druids of the North: The druid Malgor offers to teach you one spell from the following list: frost breath, superior magic fang, perinarch, or panacea. Circle the spell chosen. You now have access to that spell. Note that even though this favor clearly comes from a druid, it doesn't specify the class the spells belong to, thus it is open for other classes that have one of those spells on their spell list.
celexter 09-28-06, 11:48 AM	I wonder about something... If a Spellbook gives access to a Limited spell for a Wizard, the Wizard learns and scribe it down, does he lose access (and with it, the ability to cast the spell) if he sold or lost the Spellbook that grant him access in the first place? Because it sounds a bit illogical for someone who have learnt AND scribed it down to be unable to cast it due to a old book they lost.
kenobi65 09-28-06, 01:11 PM	If a Spellbook gives access to a Limited spell for a Wizard, the Wizard learns and scribe it down, does he lose access (and with it, the ability to cast the spell) if he sold or lost the Spellbook that grant him access in the first place? No. The revised Dispel Confusion article makes this clear. As long as you have one copy of the spell, you're fine. Once you scribe it into your own spellbook, what becomes of the original source material doesn't matter.