Monk/Caster Question [Archive] - Wizards Community

Monk/Caster Question [Archive] - Wizards Community

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Shieldhart91
12-22-06, 04:10 AM I'm considering putting my monk through a level of Sorcerer so that I may independently benefit from Mage Armor, Shield, and/or Fist of Stone. My question would be if I took a level in Sorcerer, would I be able to get Fist of Stone from the start? I only plan to take one level...does it work?
Ira_Dei
12-22-06, 04:25 AM Only if you take the sorceror level at third - the spell is core access, but not from the PHB. And that breaks up your monk levels, so you'd need to take the monk/sorceror feat (arcane asthetic? or whatever it's called).
Lupo
12-22-06, 05:22 AM I'm considering putting my monk through a level of Sorcerer so that I may independently benefit from Mage Armor, Shield, and/or Fist of Stone. My question would be if I took a level in Sorcerer, would I be able to get Fist of Stone from the start? I only plan to take one level...does it work?

is your character already running, i.e. has played some modules?

what is your future career? straight monk? tatooed monk? pious templar? anything else?

yea, a level of spellcaster is a solid investment for a monk, IF you can get what you want without to much drawback. it makes one somehow independent from party spellcasters, however only for some very limited uses - "mage armor", "shield" sometimes a "magic weapon", without taking the feat "practised spellcaster" you only get these for a short time (compared to "real" casters).
you can get even more out of a level of cleric with the magic domain and an additional fitting domain. the ability to use arcane scrolls + another domain + minor healing + better hit points + wis is more likely a good stat for you monk + outside PHB spells open automatically with level 3.

ciao

martin m.
Mommy was an Orc
12-22-06, 09:39 AM I'm considering putting my monk through a level of Sorcerer so that I may independently benefit from Mage Armor, Shield, and/or Fist of Stone. My question would be if I took a level in Sorcerer, would I be able to get Fist of Stone from the start? I only plan to take one level...does it work?

It does, but I'd only do it if you have a plan to get back into Monk or Enlightened Fist. You can't do that unless you have Ascetic Mage, which requires you to be able to cast 2nd level spells or 3 actual caster levels.

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Shieldhart91 12-22-06, 04:10 AM	I'm considering putting my monk through a level of Sorcerer so that I may independently benefit from Mage Armor, Shield, and/or Fist of Stone. My question would be if I took a level in Sorcerer, would I be able to get Fist of Stone from the start? I only plan to take one level...does it work?
Ira_Dei 12-22-06, 04:25 AM	Only if you take the sorceror level at third - the spell is core access, but not from the PHB. And that breaks up your monk levels, so you'd need to take the monk/sorceror feat (arcane asthetic? or whatever it's called).
Lupo 12-22-06, 05:22 AM	I'm considering putting my monk through a level of Sorcerer so that I may independently benefit from Mage Armor, Shield, and/or Fist of Stone. My question would be if I took a level in Sorcerer, would I be able to get Fist of Stone from the start? I only plan to take one level...does it work? is your character already running, i.e. has played some modules? what is your future career? straight monk? tatooed monk? pious templar? anything else? yea, a level of spellcaster is a solid investment for a monk, IF you can get what you want without to much drawback. it makes one somehow independent from party spellcasters, however only for some very limited uses - "mage armor", "shield" sometimes a "magic weapon", without taking the feat "practised spellcaster" you only get these for a short time (compared to "real" casters). you can get even more out of a level of cleric with the magic domain and an additional fitting domain. the ability to use arcane scrolls + another domain + minor healing + better hit points + wis is more likely a good stat for you monk + outside PHB spells open automatically with level 3. ciao martin m.
Mommy was an Orc 12-22-06, 09:39 AM	I'm considering putting my monk through a level of Sorcerer so that I may independently benefit from Mage Armor, Shield, and/or Fist of Stone. My question would be if I took a level in Sorcerer, would I be able to get Fist of Stone from the start? I only plan to take one level...does it work? It does, but I'd only do it if you have a plan to get back into Monk or Enlightened Fist. You can't do that unless you have Ascetic Mage, which requires you to be able to cast 2nd level spells or 3 actual caster levels.