Spell Compendium [Archive] - Wizards Community

Spell Compendium [Archive] - Wizards Community

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cignus7
07-26-07, 02:24 AM Quick question. I have a spell...Stabilize. It is not listed in open spells and it is not listed in closed spells. It comes from the spell compendium, do i have access to it?
Jay_Ibero_911
07-26-07, 02:38 AM Quick question. I have a spell...Stabilize. It is not listed in open spells and it is not listed in closed spells. It comes from the spell compendium, do i have access to it?

If it's not listed as either open or closed than it's NONC (Not open, not closed). This means you need specific campaign documentation to use the rules item in question, such as AR access.
clannagh
07-26-07, 02:39 AM As a Non-open/Non-closed (NONC) spell you will need an AR or metaorg that gives you access to a spellbook or scroll of it before you can take it. You cannot just take it or scribe it from another players spellbook. You need certed evidence you have access.

Its this limited access to feats and spells that makes LG interesting (as opposed to harass the GM to allow it access in home games) . Eventually getting access to a good NONC feat or spell or PrC is a very satisfying thing and part of the challenge of LG
TetsujinOni
07-26-07, 09:09 AM Y'know, answers which add a new term cloud the issue. The following is consistent with the LGCS access rules in CY597 as far as I've seen.

If you do not have campaign documentation allowing you to use the spell (or other rules item), you cannot use the spell (or other rules item).

The LGCS provides campaign documentation for the D&D3.5 Core, with certain spells closed from access, as well as many other rule sources. Metaplay documents, or the GRS, as well as access granted by adventures played, will provide access to new rule items.
cignus7
07-26-07, 09:22 AM nuts. ok..stabilize is a cool spell, cleric 2, heals everyone in an area for 1 point, tack on augment healing and now you have a second level spell that heals everyone for 5

ok so, if its in spell compendium and its not on the open spell list or the closed spell list then its considered closed until you get campaign doc. the funny thing is its on the Healer's spell list.
pedr
07-26-07, 10:12 AM Yes. The LGCS extends the Healer's Spell list but doesn't Open spells which are on the list but not Open; what this means is that Healers, like Clerics, can use those spells if they get campaign documentation Opening them: it means that a Healer remains slightly better at healing than a Cleric, as was the intent of the designers of the class (though Spontaneous Healer is probably a required feat; I think that no-one in WotC had come up with the idea of a Warmage-style spontaneous caster when the Healer was designed!)
kjenks
07-26-07, 10:55 AM The official list of Open spells is in the LGCS. See my list of Open LG spells here for a class-by-class breakdown, with brief descriptions and notes.
http://members.aol.com/kenjenks/lg/

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
cignus7 07-26-07, 02:24 AM	Quick question. I have a spell...Stabilize. It is not listed in open spells and it is not listed in closed spells. It comes from the spell compendium, do i have access to it?
Jay_Ibero_911 07-26-07, 02:38 AM	Quick question. I have a spell...Stabilize. It is not listed in open spells and it is not listed in closed spells. It comes from the spell compendium, do i have access to it? If it's not listed as either open or closed than it's NONC (Not open, not closed). This means you need specific campaign documentation to use the rules item in question, such as AR access.
clannagh 07-26-07, 02:39 AM	As a Non-open/Non-closed (NONC) spell you will need an AR or metaorg that gives you access to a spellbook or scroll of it before you can take it. You cannot just take it or scribe it from another players spellbook. You need certed evidence you have access. Its this limited access to feats and spells that makes LG interesting (as opposed to harass the GM to allow it access in home games) . Eventually getting access to a good NONC feat or spell or PrC is a very satisfying thing and part of the challenge of LG
TetsujinOni 07-26-07, 09:09 AM	Y'know, answers which add a new term cloud the issue. The following is consistent with the LGCS access rules in CY597 as far as I've seen. If you do not have campaign documentation allowing you to use the spell (or other rules item), you cannot use the spell (or other rules item). The LGCS provides campaign documentation for the D&D3.5 Core, with certain spells closed from access, as well as many other rule sources. Metaplay documents, or the GRS, as well as access granted by adventures played, will provide access to new rule items.
cignus7 07-26-07, 09:22 AM	nuts. ok..stabilize is a cool spell, cleric 2, heals everyone in an area for 1 point, tack on augment healing and now you have a second level spell that heals everyone for 5 ok so, if its in spell compendium and its not on the open spell list or the closed spell list then its considered closed until you get campaign doc. the funny thing is its on the Healer's spell list.
pedr 07-26-07, 10:12 AM	Yes. The LGCS extends the Healer's Spell list but doesn't Open spells which are on the list but not Open; what this means is that Healers, like Clerics, can use those spells if they get campaign documentation Opening them: it means that a Healer remains slightly better at healing than a Cleric, as was the intent of the designers of the class (though Spontaneous Healer is probably a required feat; I think that no-one in WotC had come up with the idea of a Warmage-style spontaneous caster when the Healer was designed!)
kjenks 07-26-07, 10:55 AM	The official list of Open spells is in the LGCS. See my list of Open LG spells here for a class-by-class breakdown, with brief descriptions and notes. http://members.aol.com/kenjenks/lg/