Two Weapon Fighting and Bear Warrior [Archive] - Wizards Community

Two Weapon Fighting and Bear Warrior [Archive] - Wizards Community

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DuctShuiTengu
08-26-05, 04:38 PM Okay, so I had this idea for doing a Ranger 6/Barbarian 1/Bear Warrior X build, figuring I could use the Two Weapon Fighting style to get extra attacks with the char's natural weapons, when I rediscovered(in rapid succession) two things. 1: bears already get both claws and a bite included in their full attack, and 2: high bab doesn't allow for extra attacks with natural weapons (not including unarmed strike, I assume).

So, I'm thinking that 2 weapon fighting is looking like it'd more-or-less be a complete waste? Or would it somehow still allow for extra attacks while in bear form?

Also, since I'm still interested in the Bear Warrior PrC, anyone care to toss out some suggestions of other feats that would be more useful for the character?
ShinAkuma2
08-26-05, 05:29 PM You're correct in assuming TWF won't help with a bear...much. As I understand it, you could use it, making an unarmed strike attack with your off-hand. This would do standard damage of an unarmed strike + 1/2 Str mod, depending on size. Also, I don' think bears are proficient with unarmed strike, so it might incur additional penalties.

You'd be better off, IMO, with Extra Rage, Power Attack, or maybe something basic like Improved Toughness, depending on what you have already.
Iswald
08-28-05, 04:11 AM You wouldn't be able to get an extra off hand attack while in bear form even with TWF since you're limited to the bear's normal attacks.

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DuctShuiTengu 08-26-05, 04:38 PM	Okay, so I had this idea for doing a Ranger 6/Barbarian 1/Bear Warrior X build, figuring I could use the Two Weapon Fighting style to get extra attacks with the char's natural weapons, when I rediscovered(in rapid succession) two things. 1: bears already get both claws and a bite included in their full attack, and 2: high bab doesn't allow for extra attacks with natural weapons (not including unarmed strike, I assume). So, I'm thinking that 2 weapon fighting is looking like it'd more-or-less be a complete waste? Or would it somehow still allow for extra attacks while in bear form? Also, since I'm still interested in the Bear Warrior PrC, anyone care to toss out some suggestions of other feats that would be more useful for the character?
ShinAkuma2 08-26-05, 05:29 PM	You're correct in assuming TWF won't help with a bear...much. As I understand it, you could use it, making an unarmed strike attack with your off-hand. This would do standard damage of an unarmed strike + 1/2 Str mod, depending on size. Also, I don' think bears are proficient with unarmed strike, so it might incur additional penalties. You'd be better off, IMO, with Extra Rage, Power Attack, or maybe something basic like Improved Toughness, depending on what you have already.
Iswald 08-28-05, 04:11 AM	You wouldn't be able to get an extra off hand attack while in bear form even with TWF since you're limited to the bear's normal attacks.