Variant Ranger with no spellcasting? [Archive] - Wizards Community

Variant Ranger with no spellcasting? [Archive] - Wizards Community

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echoota
05-25-06, 01:57 AM In the Complete Warrior there is a variant for rangers that removes the spellcasting but tweaks other features for the ranger. Since none of the tweaks kick in before spellcasting appears would I be able to claim the variant at 3rd level when the option unlocks for LG?

My wisdom isn't going to be high enough (only 10) to make any use of the spells, but some of the variant tweaks, like increased movement, will be really handy.
Cynric
05-25-06, 07:08 AM You cannot use those variant in LG at all. The easiest way to do a ranger without speelcasting is to give no wisdom or at the most 11 or 12 so you can cast arrowmind.
kenobi65
05-25-06, 11:23 AM While reaching third level "unlocks" access to items from the non-core books, like Complete Warrior, not everything in those books is allowed in LG...and the variant classes are among those that aren't allowed.
Iswald
05-30-06, 08:18 AM The variant classes are limited, by default now. Ask your triad for a special mission.
ShinAkuma2
05-30-06, 01:18 PM The variant classes are limited, by default now. Ask your triad for a special mission.

Actually, the LGCS specifically notes that any variant classes are not used in LG, be they the non-caster classes, the racial classes, or anything else of that ilk.
Arvagor
05-30-06, 01:37 PM And for those who will inevitably ask where/why, it's in the LGCS, page 66:
Q: Can I use racial substitution levels as presented in Races of Stone and Races of Destiny? What about 'variant' versions of the core classes like paladin and ranger as presented in Complete Warrior?

A: No. The LIVING GREYHAWK campaign does not use those rules options.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
echoota 05-25-06, 01:57 AM	In the Complete Warrior there is a variant for rangers that removes the spellcasting but tweaks other features for the ranger. Since none of the tweaks kick in before spellcasting appears would I be able to claim the variant at 3rd level when the option unlocks for LG? My wisdom isn't going to be high enough (only 10) to make any use of the spells, but some of the variant tweaks, like increased movement, will be really handy.
Cynric 05-25-06, 07:08 AM	You cannot use those variant in LG at all. The easiest way to do a ranger without speelcasting is to give no wisdom or at the most 11 or 12 so you can cast arrowmind.
kenobi65 05-25-06, 11:23 AM	While reaching third level "unlocks" access to items from the non-core books, like Complete Warrior, not everything in those books is allowed in LG...and the variant classes are among those that aren't allowed.
Iswald 05-30-06, 08:18 AM	The variant classes are limited, by default now. Ask your triad for a special mission.
ShinAkuma2 05-30-06, 01:18 PM	The variant classes are limited, by default now. Ask your triad for a special mission. Actually, the LGCS specifically notes that any variant classes are not used in LG, be they the non-caster classes, the racial classes, or anything else of that ilk.
Arvagor 05-30-06, 01:37 PM	And for those who will inevitably ask where/why, it's in the LGCS, page 66: Q: Can I use racial substitution levels as presented in Races of Stone and Races of Destiny? What about 'variant' versions of the core classes like paladin and ranger as presented in Complete Warrior? A: No. The LIVING GREYHAWK campaign does not use those rules options.