Wisdom boost [Archive] - Wizards Community

Wisdom boost [Archive] - Wizards Community

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Thanlok
08-08-06, 02:37 PM I have access to an ioun stone and a periapt of wisdom. Is there anything else to boost Wisdom scores?

Thanlok
kenobi65
08-08-06, 03:19 PM As far as items, the only other one in the DMG (as far as I can remember) is the Tome of Understanding, a book which, once read, gives the character an inherent bonus to Wisdom. The Tome isn't cheap: one that gives a +1 bonus to Wisdom costs 27,500gp. The Tomes go all the way up to a +5 inherent bonus, for 137,500gp. And, then, there's always the issue of getting access to one.

Note that the Ioun Stone and the Periapt you mention won't stack with each other; they both provide an enhancement bonus to Wisdom.
trollbill
08-08-06, 04:31 PM I thought I remembered reading you couldn't get more than a +1 Inherent bonus from the books in LG.
kenobi65
08-08-06, 05:01 PM I thought I remembered reading you couldn't get more than a +1 Inherent bonus from the books in LG.

Entirely possible; I've never gotten to the point where it's ever come up. :)
Mommy was an Orc
08-08-06, 05:41 PM I thought I remembered reading you couldn't get more than a +1 Inherent bonus from the books in LG.

Inherent bonuses are like almost any other in D&D - they don't stack with other inherent bonuses. You can't get two of the same +1 Inherent books and thereby get a bonus of +2.

But the only apparent limit on a +2 Inherent book is whether or not they decide to put one into the game.
Japangirl
08-08-06, 06:12 PM I think books are completely banned, actually. I know that when the campaign retirement was 18th, not 16th, casters weren't allowed to wish themselves higher stats.

You can get inherent stat bumps from a few mods, but I think that's the only way.
Mommy was an Orc
08-08-06, 07:32 PM I have a character who got access to 2 books in the past week. Of course, she won't actually be able to afford them until 10 levels from now, but...

I think books are completely banned, actually. I know that when the campaign retirement was 18th, not 16th, casters weren't allowed to wish themselves higher stats.
Arvagor
08-08-06, 08:06 PM Ditto here, although I only have access to the +1 variety...
zoinks69
08-10-06, 02:28 AM For dwarves, there is the Clasp of the Elder (from Arms & Equipment Guide). When worn by a dwarf (on their beard, so unslotted? There's nothing specific in the text) it gives +2 enchancement (so no stacking with periapt) to Wis and +5 competance bonus to Diplomacy and Intimidate. It's unfortunately caster level 10 and access would be rather limited, but it might be worth trying to find for non-divine dwarven casters, assuming it's actually unslotted -- +1 will saves isn't terrible and the +5 is nice for charismatic types.
Prochytes
08-10-06, 07:30 AM But the only apparent limit on a +2 Inherent book is whether or not they decide to put one into the game.

There is at least one wizard out there who bought herself a Tome of Clear Thought +4 (I think; it might have been a +3) as a result of a favour from an expired module. She had to save up for a month of Sundays, of course.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Thanlok 08-08-06, 02:37 PM	I have access to an ioun stone and a periapt of wisdom. Is there anything else to boost Wisdom scores? Thanlok
kenobi65 08-08-06, 03:19 PM	As far as items, the only other one in the DMG (as far as I can remember) is the Tome of Understanding, a book which, once read, gives the character an inherent bonus to Wisdom. The Tome isn't cheap: one that gives a +1 bonus to Wisdom costs 27,500gp. The Tomes go all the way up to a +5 inherent bonus, for 137,500gp. And, then, there's always the issue of getting access to one. Note that the Ioun Stone and the Periapt you mention won't stack with each other; they both provide an enhancement bonus to Wisdom.
trollbill 08-08-06, 04:31 PM	I thought I remembered reading you couldn't get more than a +1 Inherent bonus from the books in LG.
kenobi65 08-08-06, 05:01 PM	I thought I remembered reading you couldn't get more than a +1 Inherent bonus from the books in LG. Entirely possible; I've never gotten to the point where it's ever come up. :)
Mommy was an Orc 08-08-06, 05:41 PM	I thought I remembered reading you couldn't get more than a +1 Inherent bonus from the books in LG. Inherent bonuses are like almost any other in D&D - they don't stack with other inherent bonuses. You can't get two of the same +1 Inherent books and thereby get a bonus of +2. But the only apparent limit on a +2 Inherent book is whether or not they decide to put one into the game.
Japangirl 08-08-06, 06:12 PM	I think books are completely banned, actually. I know that when the campaign retirement was 18th, not 16th, casters weren't allowed to wish themselves higher stats. You can get inherent stat bumps from a few mods, but I think that's the only way.
Mommy was an Orc 08-08-06, 07:32 PM	I have a character who got access to 2 books in the past week. Of course, she won't actually be able to afford them until 10 levels from now, but... I think books are completely banned, actually. I know that when the campaign retirement was 18th, not 16th, casters weren't allowed to wish themselves higher stats.
Arvagor 08-08-06, 08:06 PM	Ditto here, although I only have access to the +1 variety...
zoinks69 08-10-06, 02:28 AM	For dwarves, there is the Clasp of the Elder (from Arms & Equipment Guide). When worn by a dwarf (on their beard, so unslotted? There's nothing specific in the text) it gives +2 enchancement (so no stacking with periapt) to Wis and +5 competance bonus to Diplomacy and Intimidate. It's unfortunately caster level 10 and access would be rather limited, but it might be worth trying to find for non-divine dwarven casters, assuming it's actually unslotted -- +1 will saves isn't terrible and the +5 is nice for charismatic types.
Prochytes 08-10-06, 07:30 AM	But the only apparent limit on a +2 Inherent book is whether or not they decide to put one into the game. There is at least one wizard out there who bought herself a Tome of Clear Thought +4 (I think; it might have been a +3) as a result of a favour from an expired module. She had to save up for a month of Sundays, of course.