15 mins to get new spells?? [Archive] - Wizards Community

15 mins to get new spells?? [Archive] - Wizards Community

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edgelett
02-02-04, 06:32 PM Is there a rule somewhere that states that a cleric can pray for 15 mins in the middle of the day to replace 1 spell with another?

i.e if you've memorised Summon Monster V, then a PC dies, can you pray for Raise Living & get rid of the summon monster?

I've heard a few people mention this rule but can't find it in the PHB - my DM will only allow it if I can show him what page the rule is on.
Eagle Prince
02-02-04, 07:10 PM Clerics have to choose a certain time of day which they pray for spells. An arcane spellcaster needs to actually rest before he regains his arcane power (spell slots) to memorize/cast new spells. A cleric doesn't "regain" any power, he simply prays to his god for the spells. So a cleric could actually regain his spells even if he didn't have time to rest, as long as he took the time to pray for new ones. However, he could only pray for his spells at the appointed time, so I don't think he has any way to drop one spell and pray for a new one without actually just waiting until the next day.
Seeker95
02-02-04, 07:56 PM You may have heard people mention this rule, but it is not in the rules. As Eagle Prince mentioned, clerics pray at a specific time of day, depending on their deity. This is usually dawn, noon, dusk or midnight.

Receiving spells at any time other than this is a house rule, and a poor one at that!

For emergency situations, it is always good to have a few scrolls in tow.
lanilifar
02-02-04, 08:08 PM The cleric cannot swap out spells. He can, however, leave a slot open, to fill later in the day. This is described in the PHB, in the section, Preparing Divine Spells.
Darth K'Trava
02-02-04, 08:16 PM Some DMs will allow a cleric to swap one spell for another. One of my DMs makes you roll for the chance. Don't know what the DC is as I don't play a cleric under him. The other makes you actually PRAY to your cleric's deity to attempt to get the spell you need. This may or may not get that spell, depends on the prayer and how you present yourself to your god..... I'm not too keen on this as I had to do that one time and blew it as I don't think of stuff like that on the fly...... All in all, it's not supposed to be easy or everyone would do it.
edgelett
02-02-04, 09:16 PM Cool, I was hoping it wasn't an actual rule...thanks for the help!

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
edgelett 02-02-04, 06:32 PM	Is there a rule somewhere that states that a cleric can pray for 15 mins in the middle of the day to replace 1 spell with another? i.e if you've memorised Summon Monster V, then a PC dies, can you pray for Raise Living & get rid of the summon monster? I've heard a few people mention this rule but can't find it in the PHB - my DM will only allow it if I can show him what page the rule is on.
Eagle Prince 02-02-04, 07:10 PM	Clerics have to choose a certain time of day which they pray for spells. An arcane spellcaster needs to actually rest before he regains his arcane power (spell slots) to memorize/cast new spells. A cleric doesn't "regain" any power, he simply prays to his god for the spells. So a cleric could actually regain his spells even if he didn't have time to rest, as long as he took the time to pray for new ones. However, he could only pray for his spells at the appointed time, so I don't think he has any way to drop one spell and pray for a new one without actually just waiting until the next day.
Seeker95 02-02-04, 07:56 PM	You may have heard people mention this rule, but it is not in the rules. As Eagle Prince mentioned, clerics pray at a specific time of day, depending on their deity. This is usually dawn, noon, dusk or midnight. Receiving spells at any time other than this is a house rule, and a poor one at that! For emergency situations, it is always good to have a few scrolls in tow.
lanilifar 02-02-04, 08:08 PM	The cleric cannot swap out spells. He can, however, leave a slot open, to fill later in the day. This is described in the PHB, in the section, Preparing Divine Spells.
Darth K'Trava 02-02-04, 08:16 PM	Some DMs will allow a cleric to swap one spell for another. One of my DMs makes you roll for the chance. Don't know what the DC is as I don't play a cleric under him. The other makes you actually PRAY to your cleric's deity to attempt to get the spell you need. This may or may not get that spell, depends on the prayer and how you present yourself to your god..... I'm not too keen on this as I had to do that one time and blew it as I don't think of stuff like that on the fly...... All in all, it's not supposed to be easy or everyone would do it.
edgelett 02-02-04, 09:16 PM	Cool, I was hoping it wasn't an actual rule...thanks for the help!