3.5 How does dispelling spells cast with Permancy work? [Archive] - Wizards Community

3.5 How does dispelling spells cast with Permancy work? [Archive] - Wizards Community

Post/Author/DateTime Post
Harmor
02-17-04, 04:20 AM Lets say you cast Read Magic on yourself using Permancy.

Spells casts on others, areas, or objects would be dispeled as normal, but would spell cast on yourself be surpressed for 1d4 rounds like a magical item?

Or would you need to FIRST dispell the Permancy spell and then the Read magic spell?

I'm confused.
smrtgmp
02-17-04, 04:24 AM I think its the former, but dont quote me on that. Mordenkainen's Disjunction on the other hand...
Harmor
02-17-04, 04:35 AM Isn't that a 6th level spell? That should be able to work, but a 3rd level spell affecting a permanently cast spell permanently seems weird.
was_fired
02-17-04, 06:33 AM It can be dispelled provided their caster level is higher than yours when you cast the spell. It should be noted btw that you have to be at least caster level 11 to have permanacy. So every level thereafter they have less and less of a chance of breaking through with their dispell check using normal dispelling. It takes the 6th spell greater dispell to keep the 50% chance of dispelling the effect.
Zherog
02-17-04, 10:54 AM Originally posted by was_fired
It should be noted btw that you have to be at least caster level 11 to have permanacy.

Permanency is a 5th level sorcerer/wizard spell. That means a wizard can prepare it and cast it beginning at 9th level. A sorcerer can know it and cast it beginning at 10th level. Various effects require a minimum caster level. The minimum caster level to make Read Magic permanent is 9th.

Whenever you make something permanent (whether it's on yourself, somebody else or an object) you should record your caster level somewhere. This is what is used for Dispel checks.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Harmor 02-17-04, 04:20 AM	Lets say you cast Read Magic on yourself using Permancy. Spells casts on others, areas, or objects would be dispeled as normal, but would spell cast on yourself be surpressed for 1d4 rounds like a magical item? Or would you need to FIRST dispell the Permancy spell and then the Read magic spell? I'm confused.
smrtgmp 02-17-04, 04:24 AM	I think its the former, but dont quote me on that. Mordenkainen's Disjunction on the other hand...
Harmor 02-17-04, 04:35 AM	Isn't that a 6th level spell? That should be able to work, but a 3rd level spell affecting a permanently cast spell permanently seems weird.
was_fired 02-17-04, 06:33 AM	It can be dispelled provided their caster level is higher than yours when you cast the spell. It should be noted btw that you have to be at least caster level 11 to have permanacy. So every level thereafter they have less and less of a chance of breaking through with their dispell check using normal dispelling. It takes the 6th spell greater dispell to keep the 50% chance of dispelling the effect.
Zherog 02-17-04, 10:54 AM	Originally posted by was_fired It should be noted btw that you have to be at least caster level 11 to have permanacy. Permanency is a 5th level sorcerer/wizard spell. That means a wizard can prepare it and cast it beginning at 9th level. A sorcerer can know it and cast it beginning at 10th level. Various effects require a minimum caster level. The minimum caster level to make Read Magic permanent is 9th. Whenever you make something permanent (whether it's on yourself, somebody else or an object) you should record your caster level somewhere. This is what is used for Dispel checks.