Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Harmor 09-23-04, 02:54 PM	I wanted a spell to make large grappling creatures think twice about grappling one of my companions. I would think this spell already exists in some form, but I can't find any reference. This spell reminds me of the movie Beetlejuice(tm) that had the character grow spikes while he was grappled. Grow Spikes Transmutation Level: Drd 1, Rgr 1 Components: V Casting Time: 1 standard action Range: Touch Target: One creature Duration: 10 min./level (D) Saving Throw: Will negates (harmless) Spell Resistance: Yes The target creature grows spikes on their person. Any creature that successfully grapples the target of this spell takes 1d8/2 caster levels (maximum of 5d8) of piercing damage. [EDIT]Lowered level to 1 for Druid [EDIT]Lower Duration from 1 hour/level to 10 min./level [EDIT]Set maximum damage to 5d8 What do you guys think? I made the spell verbal only because I thought this would be something you would cast while grappled?
Kainy 09-23-04, 02:59 PM	That's an awfully long duration for a level 1 ranger spell. If it's level 1 ranger, it should be level 1 druid. If it's level 2 druid, it should be at least level 2 ranger. Not bad, though, since it only deals damage on a grapple. I assume the will save is for the target of the spell, not the grappler. If so, the save entry should look like this: Saving Throw: Will negates (harmless)
Harmor 09-23-04, 05:27 PM	Updated. You think 1 hour/level is too long? Maybe 10 minutes/level instead? Or 1 minute/level?
kSquared 09-23-04, 05:33 PM	I know the damage is only applicable in a limited situation (i.e., grappling), but 1d8/2 levels is an enormous amount of damage for a 1st-level spell. 1d6/2 levels would be more appropriate.
brum 09-23-04, 05:44 PM	...and max 5d6 at 10th level.
kSquared 09-23-04, 05:48 PM	Yes, definitely. I should've said that before too. A 5d6 cap would balance out the spell nicely. Another mechanic you might want to consider is to bump up the level a notch, and have the spikes come into play whenever an opposing creature enters your square. This would make it handy against bull-rushes and the like.
Harmor 09-23-04, 11:39 PM	[EDIT]Lowered level to 1 for Druid [EDIT]Lower Duration from 1 hour/level to 10 min./level [EDIT]Set maximum damage to 5d8 Hmm...maybe I should update the spell to say whenever an unarmed or grapple attack? That way it will do damage when someone trips, bull-rushes, over-run, unarmed attack or natural attack. If I did that then I would up the level to 2 at least.