A question about continuous magic items [Archive] - Wizards Community

A question about continuous magic items [Archive] - Wizards Community

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Dauthi_King
11-21-05, 02:40 PM To make a magic spell effect continuous I have to multiply the base price by 4. So a ring that cast mirror image (lets say its 4000g) would then cost 16,000g to be continuous, and its effect would be a perment mirror image, right? Thats not the question but I'm not sure if thats right. So here it is. A magic item that could cast Cure Minor Wounds at will as a level one cleric would cost 2000g (caster level (1) * spell level (1) * 2000g), and to make it continuous would cost 8000, right? So its effects would be what? I ask this because one of my players wants to do this and it makes sence, but I find a hard time justifying that my player now gets healed 1d8 + 1 hp each round.
cwslyclgh
11-21-05, 02:44 PM the best thing to do is just say no to contineous magic items that use a instananeous spell, they are ALL broken.
ScipioX
11-21-05, 02:55 PM I concur. If you think its unbalanced, it probably is. The cost chart is just a guide.
theAlastorian
11-21-05, 03:03 PM And healing spells should NEVER be continuous. That's why there are monster abilities like fast healing that give a jump to LA.
Seeker95
11-21-05, 05:37 PM Here's the solution if you choose to allow such things: Natural Consequences.

Continuous cure ring infuses the wearer with positive energy. It is a direct link to the positive energy plane. The wearer is granted one hit point per round. Once granted twice as many hit points as her maximum, she goes *pop*!
Esponer
11-21-05, 05:56 PM To make a magic spell effect continuous I have to multiply the base price by 4. So a ring that cast mirror image (lets say its 4000g) would then cost 16,000g to be continuous, and its effect would be a perment mirror image, right? Thats not the question but I'm not sure if thats right. So here it is. A magic item that could cast Cure Minor Wounds at will as a level one cleric would cost 2000g (caster level (1) * spell level (1) * 2000g), and to make it continuous would cost 8000, right? So its effects would be what? I ask this because one of my players wants to do this and it makes sence, but I find a hard time justifying that my player now gets healed 1d8 + 1 hp each round.

You have the guidelines all wrong.

If a magic item could cast Cure Minor Wounds at will, it would cost 1800 gold (CL 1 * SL 1 * 1800), but this is clearly unbalanced and wouldn't be allowed by the DM, as the guidelines are just guidelines.

It cannot be continuous, as it does not have a duration.

If it had a duration, to be continuous it would cost CL * SL * 2000 * modifier for duration. This modifier is 0.5 for durations over one day, 1 for durations in hours, 1.5 for durations in 10 minutes/level form, 2 for durations in 1 minute/level form, and 4 for durations in 1 round/level form.

So in answer:
• What he's suggesting isn't possible. It cannot be made continuous.
• The guidelines are only guidelines. Don't allow anything which is clearly unbalanced.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Dauthi_King 11-21-05, 02:40 PM	To make a magic spell effect continuous I have to multiply the base price by 4. So a ring that cast mirror image (lets say its 4000g) would then cost 16,000g to be continuous, and its effect would be a perment mirror image, right? Thats not the question but I'm not sure if thats right. So here it is. A magic item that could cast Cure Minor Wounds at will as a level one cleric would cost 2000g (caster level (1) * spell level (1) * 2000g), and to make it continuous would cost 8000, right? So its effects would be what? I ask this because one of my players wants to do this and it makes sence, but I find a hard time justifying that my player now gets healed 1d8 + 1 hp each round.
cwslyclgh 11-21-05, 02:44 PM	the best thing to do is just say no to contineous magic items that use a instananeous spell, they are ALL broken.
ScipioX 11-21-05, 02:55 PM	I concur. If you think its unbalanced, it probably is. The cost chart is just a guide.
theAlastorian 11-21-05, 03:03 PM	And healing spells should NEVER be continuous. That's why there are monster abilities like fast healing that give a jump to LA.
Seeker95 11-21-05, 05:37 PM	Here's the solution if you choose to allow such things: Natural Consequences. Continuous cure ring infuses the wearer with positive energy. It is a direct link to the positive energy plane. The wearer is granted one hit point per round. Once granted twice as many hit points as her maximum, she goes pop!
Esponer 11-21-05, 05:56 PM	To make a magic spell effect continuous I have to multiply the base price by 4. So a ring that cast mirror image (lets say its 4000g) would then cost 16,000g to be continuous, and its effect would be a perment mirror image, right? Thats not the question but I'm not sure if thats right. So here it is. A magic item that could cast Cure Minor Wounds at will as a level one cleric would cost 2000g (caster level (1) * spell level (1) * 2000g), and to make it continuous would cost 8000, right? So its effects would be what? I ask this because one of my players wants to do this and it makes sence, but I find a hard time justifying that my player now gets healed 1d8 + 1 hp each round. You have the guidelines all wrong. If a magic item could cast Cure Minor Wounds at will, it would cost 1800 gold (CL 1 * SL 1 * 1800), but this is clearly unbalanced and wouldn't be allowed by the DM, as the guidelines are just guidelines. It cannot be continuous, as it does not have a duration. If it had a duration, to be continuous it would cost CL * SL * 2000 * modifier for duration. This modifier is 0.5 for durations over one day, 1 for durations in hours, 1.5 for durations in 10 minutes/level form, 2 for durations in 1 minute/level form, and 4 for durations in 1 round/level form. So in answer: • What he's suggesting isn't possible. It cannot be made continuous. • The guidelines are only guidelines. Don't allow anything which is clearly unbalanced.