a question about......wands? [Archive] - Wizards Community

a question about......wands? [Archive] - Wizards Community

Post/Author/DateTime Post
Solian
02-03-07, 10:47 AM Do wands have to look like wands? or can their effect be apllied to another item, like a glove etc?

thanks in advance

-Solian
Black Mantha
02-03-07, 10:49 AM I assume you want to avoid getting disarmed? There is nothing in the DMG that suggests you can do this, but I'd allow it with a 50% surcharge for an unusual body slot. I wouldn't allow it slotless.
Solian
02-03-07, 11:10 AM Thanks, and it's that my character is a rogue 2/wizard 5 and, well, he doesnt want to be in jail without a wand of knock (which they woudl more than likely take from him if it looked like a wand)
Decinious
02-03-07, 11:11 AM I'd allow you to make wands into Items, though I'd make you have both craft wondrous and craft wand. He's already turning a near slot less item into an item that he could be using the slot for something else. If anyone argues with you about it check into Deathwand Crossbow from arms and equipment guide, it has wand slots you can put wands in and use them as long as you are holding the crossbow. Or there is a version of gloves of storing that lets you use wands/stave out of them as if you were holding them can't remember the book though.
Thiez
02-03-07, 11:38 AM A false tooth of Knock 1/day will do >:-)

Edit: I did the math.

Knock is a second level spell, assume minimum caster level. (2 * 3)

We'll go for Use-Activated (bump with your teeth against the target door and whisper 'knock, knock', it's a standard action). (2000)

Once per day ( 1/5 )

No space limitation ( 2 )

Nerfed Distance (Range: 130 ft. to Range: Touch): 20% discount (I made this up. If you don't like it, ignore it) ( 0,8 )

Price: 2 * 3 * 2000 * 1/5 * 2 * 0,8 = 3,840 gp.

It may be expensive, but it's a small price to pay for the most stylish item in existence. Maybe you can convince your DM to make it cheaper (50% discount instead of 20%) for the limited usefulness.
Solian
02-03-07, 12:40 PM Thanks for the replies guys, helps alot :)
Neutronium_Dragon
02-03-07, 12:46 PM A wand isn't considered a slotless item. Anything which you have to wield is considered to be taking up a chakra on the character, so it doesn't get charged the slotless modifier.

You could certainly make a wand look like something else. There's no strict rule that requires a wand to look like a pointy little stick. As long as it's still functioning in the same way mechanically there'd be no problem with making it look like a statuette or a hairpin. However, you'd still need to wield it in order to use it.
DrMorganes
02-03-07, 12:52 PM I'll go with the dissenting opinion on this one. A wand, by definition, is a roughly stick-shaped item. Turning it into a glove, false tooth, or statue means you're now dealing with a Wondrous Item, not a wand.
TheRealOrion
02-03-07, 01:27 PM I agree. It's a wondrous item that happens to store 50 spells and is use-activated. Just use the wondrous item rules. A lot easier.
runestar
02-04-07, 12:38 AM And a lot more expensive...:weep:
I don't suppose there is a way of disguising a wand as some normal, everyday appliance?
Azar_of_Faerun
02-04-07, 01:21 AM Hair pick? :)
MarkL
02-04-07, 07:20 AM Thanks, and it's that my character is a rogue 2/wizard 5 and, well, he doesnt want to be in jail without a wand of knock (which they woudl more than likely take from him if it looked like a wand)

Why not just hide it where they won't look?
runestar
02-04-07, 07:48 AM Or why not just pick the lock?
MarkL
02-04-07, 08:16 AM You gotta hide the lock pick somewhere too :P
maurezen
02-04-07, 03:06 PM Seems like the lockpick hidden in the boot will be a lot cheaper))
Azar_of_Faerun
02-04-07, 07:40 PM FAKE MUSTACHE

(saw an ep of MacGyver today where the bad guy hid a pair of picks behind his sticky mustache)
Tyraxus
02-04-07, 09:49 PM Play a hot chick with two wands as hair-stick-things (whatever they're called). One of knock, and one of, say, greater invisibility (or greater command for some fun).

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Solian 02-03-07, 10:47 AM	Do wands have to look like wands? or can their effect be apllied to another item, like a glove etc? thanks in advance -Solian
Black Mantha 02-03-07, 10:49 AM	I assume you want to avoid getting disarmed? There is nothing in the DMG that suggests you can do this, but I'd allow it with a 50% surcharge for an unusual body slot. I wouldn't allow it slotless.
Solian 02-03-07, 11:10 AM	Thanks, and it's that my character is a rogue 2/wizard 5 and, well, he doesnt want to be in jail without a wand of knock (which they woudl more than likely take from him if it looked like a wand)
Decinious 02-03-07, 11:11 AM	I'd allow you to make wands into Items, though I'd make you have both craft wondrous and craft wand. He's already turning a near slot less item into an item that he could be using the slot for something else. If anyone argues with you about it check into Deathwand Crossbow from arms and equipment guide, it has wand slots you can put wands in and use them as long as you are holding the crossbow. Or there is a version of gloves of storing that lets you use wands/stave out of them as if you were holding them can't remember the book though.
Thiez 02-03-07, 11:38 AM	A false tooth of Knock 1/day will do >:-) Edit: I did the math. Knock is a second level spell, assume minimum caster level. (2 * 3) We'll go for Use-Activated (bump with your teeth against the target door and whisper 'knock, knock', it's a standard action). (2000) Once per day ( 1/5 ) No space limitation ( 2 ) Nerfed Distance (Range: 130 ft. to Range: Touch): 20% discount (I made this up. If you don't like it, ignore it) ( 0,8 ) Price: 2 * 3 * 2000 * 1/5 * 2 * 0,8 = 3,840 gp. It may be expensive, but it's a small price to pay for the most stylish item in existence. Maybe you can convince your DM to make it cheaper (50% discount instead of 20%) for the limited usefulness.
Solian 02-03-07, 12:40 PM	Thanks for the replies guys, helps alot :)
Neutronium_Dragon 02-03-07, 12:46 PM	A wand isn't considered a slotless item. Anything which you have to wield is considered to be taking up a chakra on the character, so it doesn't get charged the slotless modifier. You could certainly make a wand look like something else. There's no strict rule that requires a wand to look like a pointy little stick. As long as it's still functioning in the same way mechanically there'd be no problem with making it look like a statuette or a hairpin. However, you'd still need to wield it in order to use it.
DrMorganes 02-03-07, 12:52 PM	I'll go with the dissenting opinion on this one. A wand, by definition, is a roughly stick-shaped item. Turning it into a glove, false tooth, or statue means you're now dealing with a Wondrous Item, not a wand.
TheRealOrion 02-03-07, 01:27 PM	I agree. It's a wondrous item that happens to store 50 spells and is use-activated. Just use the wondrous item rules. A lot easier.
runestar 02-04-07, 12:38 AM	And a lot more expensive...:weep: I don't suppose there is a way of disguising a wand as some normal, everyday appliance?
Azar_of_Faerun 02-04-07, 01:21 AM	Hair pick? :)
MarkL 02-04-07, 07:20 AM	Thanks, and it's that my character is a rogue 2/wizard 5 and, well, he doesnt want to be in jail without a wand of knock (which they woudl more than likely take from him if it looked like a wand) Why not just hide it where they won't look?
runestar 02-04-07, 07:48 AM	Or why not just pick the lock?
MarkL 02-04-07, 08:16 AM	You gotta hide the lock pick somewhere too :P
maurezen 02-04-07, 03:06 PM	Seems like the lockpick hidden in the boot will be a lot cheaper))
Azar_of_Faerun 02-04-07, 07:40 PM	FAKE MUSTACHE (saw an ep of MacGyver today where the bad guy hid a pair of picks behind his sticky mustache)
Tyraxus 02-04-07, 09:49 PM	Play a hot chick with two wands as hair-stick-things (whatever they're called). One of knock, and one of, say, greater invisibility (or greater command for some fun).