a quick question about phantasmal killer..... [Archive] - Wizards Community

a quick question about phantasmal killer..... [Archive] - Wizards Community

Post/Author/DateTime Post
Farrell
03-03-07, 10:33 AM I know this may sound like a silly question, but I am just curious.
Can phantasmal killer affect a paladin? If a paladin is cast on a phantasmal killer spell, does he have to roll will save? If he fails the will save, and then unfortunately, fails fort save again, can he die from fear, just like the description of phantasmal killer in SRD?
Thanks!
CantripN
03-03-07, 11:11 AM Once he's immune to fear, he's immune to PK.
runestar
03-03-07, 11:12 AM Aye to what cantrip said.:)
CantripN
03-03-07, 11:15 AM Unless it's a Dread Witch or something... :devil:
cwslyclgh
03-03-07, 11:50 AM If a paladin is cast on a phantasmal killer spell

that doesn't seem overly easy to do... I am not sure the rules have any support to hurling holy warriors onto targeted spell effects :P
runestar
03-03-07, 12:10 PM Maybe it was a living spell?:D
Farrell
03-03-07, 07:15 PM that doesn't seem overly easy to do... I am not sure the rules have any support to hurling holy warriors onto targeted spell effects :P

Oh, Iam so sorry....it's kinda embarrassing, but what I really meant was "If a Phantasmal killer spell is cast on a paladin....". I guess when I was typing this on my computer, something funny happened on my fingers:(
Anyway, thanks for your guys' replies:)

However, I do have another question about PK. Let's say I am a wizard. Accidentally, I trigger a PK trap, but a paladin is standing together with me. Then I think according to the description of aura of courage, I should get +4 bonus on my will save against PK. Am I right?
cwslyclgh
03-03-07, 07:20 PM yes if you were with in 10 feet of a paladin of 3rd level or higher you would get a +4 bonus to your saves vs. the phantasmal killer spell.
CantripN
03-04-07, 02:24 AM yes if you were with in 10 feet of a paladin of 3rd level or higher you would get a +4 bonus to your saves vs. the phantasmal killer spell.

To clarify, not just to the Will save, but also for the Fort if you fail the Will... The entire spell is a FEAR spell, not just the Will part.
cwslyclgh
03-04-07, 02:26 AM that is why I said saves in my post ;)
CantripN
03-04-07, 02:39 AM that is why I said saves in my post ;)

Oh, I know. I just found it not clear enough for some... :P

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Farrell 03-03-07, 10:33 AM	I know this may sound like a silly question, but I am just curious. Can phantasmal killer affect a paladin? If a paladin is cast on a phantasmal killer spell, does he have to roll will save? If he fails the will save, and then unfortunately, fails fort save again, can he die from fear, just like the description of phantasmal killer in SRD? Thanks!
CantripN 03-03-07, 11:11 AM	Once he's immune to fear, he's immune to PK.
runestar 03-03-07, 11:12 AM	Aye to what cantrip said.:)
CantripN 03-03-07, 11:15 AM	Unless it's a Dread Witch or something... :devil:
cwslyclgh 03-03-07, 11:50 AM	If a paladin is cast on a phantasmal killer spell that doesn't seem overly easy to do... I am not sure the rules have any support to hurling holy warriors onto targeted spell effects :P
runestar 03-03-07, 12:10 PM	Maybe it was a living spell?:D
Farrell 03-03-07, 07:15 PM	that doesn't seem overly easy to do... I am not sure the rules have any support to hurling holy warriors onto targeted spell effects :P Oh, Iam so sorry....it's kinda embarrassing, but what I really meant was "If a Phantasmal killer spell is cast on a paladin....". I guess when I was typing this on my computer, something funny happened on my fingers:( Anyway, thanks for your guys' replies:) However, I do have another question about PK. Let's say I am a wizard. Accidentally, I trigger a PK trap, but a paladin is standing together with me. Then I think according to the description of aura of courage, I should get +4 bonus on my will save against PK. Am I right?
cwslyclgh 03-03-07, 07:20 PM	yes if you were with in 10 feet of a paladin of 3rd level or higher you would get a +4 bonus to your saves vs. the phantasmal killer spell.
CantripN 03-04-07, 02:24 AM	yes if you were with in 10 feet of a paladin of 3rd level or higher you would get a +4 bonus to your saves vs. the phantasmal killer spell. To clarify, not just to the Will save, but also for the Fort if you fail the Will... The entire spell is a FEAR spell, not just the Will part.
cwslyclgh 03-04-07, 02:26 AM	that is why I said saves in my post ;)
CantripN 03-04-07, 02:39 AM	that is why I said saves in my post ;) Oh, I know. I just found it not clear enough for some... :P