A second swift spell in one round is... [Archive] - Wizards Community

A second swift spell in one round is... [Archive] - Wizards Community

Post/Author/DateTime Post
Anauroch
08-02-06, 07:15 AM ... a move action?

... a standard action?

... impossible?

I know that a second swift spell cannot be cast as a swift spell!

But there should be a way to cast it still if one has a standard and a move action left over...

Probably there's a rule out there that I have missed, eh?
runestar
08-02-06, 07:31 AM Technically, it is impossible, according to the rule that states only 1 swift action each round. ;) I would allow a 2nd one as a standard action though. :)
tarkin
08-02-06, 10:05 AM I also would House Rule to let you cast a second one as a Standard Action.
The Mailman
08-02-06, 10:37 AM There was recently an extended discussion on this question. Here's the link to the thread: http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?t=670973

Summarizing, I thought you should be able to spend a move or a standard on an additional swift action. While I still believe there's a valid argument in favor, the vast majority of people who posted said no, although some said they'd support a house rule.
Seeker95
08-02-06, 11:43 AM I allow that you can always do a very fast thing in more time than it requires. As such, you can cast a second swift spell in a round as a standard action. I do not think this is really a houserule except that it is a house interpretation of the existing rule.
goawayugh
08-02-06, 03:15 PM I agree with everyone else here. I'd let you cast it as a standard action. Why cant you take more time to do something that normally takes you only a little bit of time?
bitnine
08-02-06, 04:14 PM By the RAW, doesn't look like you can. Other than having your sorcerer apply some metamagic to convert it over to a full round action, or putting it into an item or somesuch. But yeah, I'd allow it as a standard action.
runestar
08-02-06, 11:04 PM For all you know, there might be something about the intricacies of a quickened spell we don't know about that prevents 2 or more from being cast in the same round with the use of epic feats. ;)

Maybe a swift spell releases some sort of magical aura that interferes with other quickened spells, preventing the caster from casting more until it dissipates the next round... :P

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Anauroch 08-02-06, 07:15 AM	... a move action? ... a standard action? ... impossible? I know that a second swift spell cannot be cast as a swift spell! But there should be a way to cast it still if one has a standard and a move action left over... Probably there's a rule out there that I have missed, eh?
runestar 08-02-06, 07:31 AM	Technically, it is impossible, according to the rule that states only 1 swift action each round. ;) I would allow a 2nd one as a standard action though. :)
tarkin 08-02-06, 10:05 AM	I also would House Rule to let you cast a second one as a Standard Action.
The Mailman 08-02-06, 10:37 AM	There was recently an extended discussion on this question. Here's the link to the thread: http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?t=670973 Summarizing, I thought you should be able to spend a move or a standard on an additional swift action. While I still believe there's a valid argument in favor, the vast majority of people who posted said no, although some said they'd support a house rule.
Seeker95 08-02-06, 11:43 AM	I allow that you can always do a very fast thing in more time than it requires. As such, you can cast a second swift spell in a round as a standard action. I do not think this is really a houserule except that it is a house interpretation of the existing rule.
goawayugh 08-02-06, 03:15 PM	I agree with everyone else here. I'd let you cast it as a standard action. Why cant you take more time to do something that normally takes you only a little bit of time?
bitnine 08-02-06, 04:14 PM	By the RAW, doesn't look like you can. Other than having your sorcerer apply some metamagic to convert it over to a full round action, or putting it into an item or somesuch. But yeah, I'd allow it as a standard action.
runestar 08-02-06, 11:04 PM	For all you know, there might be something about the intricacies of a quickened spell we don't know about that prevents 2 or more from being cast in the same round with the use of epic feats. ;) Maybe a swift spell releases some sort of magical aura that interferes with other quickened spells, preventing the caster from casting more until it dissipates the next round... :P