Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Lyndis 03-21-08, 12:25 AM	Does Spell Focus (Abjuration) actually do anything? Does it affect the DC of a veil that an Initiate of the Seven Cheese puts up? Are there any Abjuration spells that allow saves?
Novabomb 03-21-08, 01:32 AM	Explosive runes
CantripN 03-21-08, 07:10 AM	Prismatic Wall, Prismatic Sphere, quite a bit of spells in non-core.
Merestil Haye 03-21-08, 07:58 AM	Does Spell Focus (Abjuration) actually do anything?Yes, of course. It acts as a requirement for Master Specialist, Initiate of the Seven Veils or Archmage (to name but three). It also increases the DC of any saving throw made by a an Abjuration spell a creature casts. Does it affect the DC of a veil that an Initiate of the Seven Cheese puts up?No. Why should it? It affects the DC of spells the featholder casts. The I7V's Warding is an SLA, not a spell. Use of the SLA is not casting a spell, therefore Spell Focus does not apply. Are there any Abjuration spells that allow saves?Yes there are. To the examples so far add Fire Trap.
runestar 03-21-08, 08:37 AM	Imprisonment and maw of chaos come to mind... The various banishment spells against outsider foes.
Lyndis 03-21-08, 09:56 PM	So a few mid level spells and mostly higher level spells have saves in Abjuration. Guess I better start learning Banishment or something.
Osedox 03-22-08, 01:02 PM	Repelling Shield from Complete Mage
Malicea 03-22-08, 08:58 PM	Mordenkainen's Disjunction
Lyndis 03-22-08, 09:36 PM	People actually use Disjunction? you'll kill all the loot!