Acid arrow of the three thunders. [Archive] - Wizards Community

Acid arrow of the three thunders. [Archive] - Wizards Community

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Dessirris
05-09-06, 12:43 AM Okay, this I need a little help figuring out.

Say you energy substitute an electric melf's acid arrow, then apply born of the three thunders to it. When do the three thunders save-requiring effects apply? The first round the creature takes damage? The last? Every round the creature takes damage?
runestar
05-09-06, 12:57 AM By a strict reading of the feat, it appears the stun and prone effects would kick in every time the target takes damage(every round... :eek: ). Good combo there...

A dm might want to houserule it to apply only to the first time acid arrow hits though... :(
tarkin
05-09-06, 10:45 AM Sorry, re-read the feat. That is a HOUSE RULE, not a strict reading of the rules.

As per the feat:

In addition, the spell concludes with a mighty thunderclap that stuns all creatures that take damage from the spell for I round unless they succeed on a Fortitude save, then knocks stunned creatures prone unless they succeed on a Reflex save (both saves at the same DC as the base spell).

The spell CONCLUDES with a thunderclap. Concludes means whent he spell ENDS, not when it does damage.

A Strict or Loose DM will say: "You use an Acid Arrow you get one thunderclap to cap off the spell after it ends."

A Power DM might say: "Spell concludes when you finish casting it, so you get a single thunderclap just after you finish casting".

It would take an Anything Goes DM to say "Spell concludes each time you take damage, multiple thunderclaps".

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Dessirris 05-09-06, 12:43 AM	Okay, this I need a little help figuring out. Say you energy substitute an electric melf's acid arrow, then apply born of the three thunders to it. When do the three thunders save-requiring effects apply? The first round the creature takes damage? The last? Every round the creature takes damage?
runestar 05-09-06, 12:57 AM	By a strict reading of the feat, it appears the stun and prone effects would kick in every time the target takes damage(every round... :eek: ). Good combo there... A dm might want to houserule it to apply only to the first time acid arrow hits though... :(
tarkin 05-09-06, 10:45 AM	Sorry, re-read the feat. That is a HOUSE RULE, not a strict reading of the rules. As per the feat: In addition, the spell concludes with a mighty thunderclap that stuns all creatures that take damage from the spell for I round unless they succeed on a Fortitude save, then knocks stunned creatures prone unless they succeed on a Reflex save (both saves at the same DC as the base spell). The spell CONCLUDES with a thunderclap. Concludes means whent he spell ENDS, not when it does damage. A Strict or Loose DM will say: "You use an Acid Arrow you get one thunderclap to cap off the spell after it ends." A Power DM might say: "Spell concludes when you finish casting it, so you get a single thunderclap just after you finish casting". It would take an Anything Goes DM to say "Spell concludes each time you take damage, multiple thunderclaps".