Alternate shapes for spells. Advice wanted. [Archive] - Wizards Community

Alternate shapes for spells. Advice wanted. [Archive] - Wizards Community

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Phrennzy
07-05-04, 07:43 PM I have a wizard player who would like to modify the dimensions of current spells. I'd like to get some feedback on what to allow.

Burning hands: Into a ray spell (short range). One target. I was thinking of upping the damage to 1d4+1 per level.

Color spray: A burst spell with a radius of 10'. Same effects as current.

Ray of Enfeeblement, Fireball, Cone of Cold: Touch attack. I was thinking of upping the damage on the latter two by +1 per die.

He plays a sorceror and took improved unarmed fighting, and so everyone thinks he's a monk. He's been using shocking grasp & chill touch, but wants to branch out.

What d'ya think?
Egres
07-05-04, 08:11 PM Do you have erased the saves from these spells?(As i imagine you have done)
Egres
07-05-04, 08:14 PM Errrr.....
I have a wizard player
He plays a sorceror
:confused: ??:confused: ??:confused:
Phrennzy
07-05-04, 11:07 PM FOr purposes of the spell, wizard & sorceror are the same.

Haven't changed a thing yet. Saving throws are still there.
Egres
07-06-04, 05:37 AM :D Is he a Wizard or a Sorcerer?:D

However,i can't see any problems.
Give them to him.
Emir
07-06-04, 07:36 AM I wouldn't give the Fireball/Cone of Cold to be a ray :\

The Fireball ray is called Sorching Ray

The Cone of Cold ray is called Polar Ray

Plus, no ray requires a Reflex save, and just giving the Fireball as a ray with a save makes no sense.

PS - If I missed the point above, maybe I didn't miss it now. The look the of the spell can be changed by the caster always. For example, he can make the Cone of Cold come out of his mouth, so it looks like a breath weapon and similar.
Egres
07-06-04, 11:16 AM Only 2 things:
1-Phrennzy talked about Touch attacks,not ranged touch attacks.
2-No one talked about Reflex saves:change them to Fortitude,and all will be ok.
tarkin
07-06-04, 11:25 AM There is a feat called Shape Spell, that he/you might be interested in. +1 level
Phrennzy
07-06-04, 11:32 AM Re: Shape Spell - where is info on that located?
Egres
07-06-04, 11:58 AM In Tome and blood.
Don't know if WotC reprinted it.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Phrennzy 07-05-04, 07:43 PM	I have a wizard player who would like to modify the dimensions of current spells. I'd like to get some feedback on what to allow. Burning hands: Into a ray spell (short range). One target. I was thinking of upping the damage to 1d4+1 per level. Color spray: A burst spell with a radius of 10'. Same effects as current. Ray of Enfeeblement, Fireball, Cone of Cold: Touch attack. I was thinking of upping the damage on the latter two by +1 per die. He plays a sorceror and took improved unarmed fighting, and so everyone thinks he's a monk. He's been using shocking grasp & chill touch, but wants to branch out. What d'ya think?
Egres 07-05-04, 08:11 PM	Do you have erased the saves from these spells?(As i imagine you have done)
Egres 07-05-04, 08:14 PM	Errrr..... I have a wizard player He plays a sorceror :confused: ??:confused: ??:confused:
Phrennzy 07-05-04, 11:07 PM	FOr purposes of the spell, wizard & sorceror are the same. Haven't changed a thing yet. Saving throws are still there.
Egres 07-06-04, 05:37 AM	:D Is he a Wizard or a Sorcerer?:D However,i can't see any problems. Give them to him.
Emir 07-06-04, 07:36 AM	I wouldn't give the Fireball/Cone of Cold to be a ray :\ The Fireball ray is called Sorching Ray The Cone of Cold ray is called Polar Ray Plus, no ray requires a Reflex save, and just giving the Fireball as a ray with a save makes no sense. PS - If I missed the point above, maybe I didn't miss it now. The look the of the spell can be changed by the caster always. For example, he can make the Cone of Cold come out of his mouth, so it looks like a breath weapon and similar.
Egres 07-06-04, 11:16 AM	Only 2 things: 1-Phrennzy talked about Touch attacks,not ranged touch attacks. 2-No one talked about Reflex saves:change them to Fortitude,and all will be ok.
tarkin 07-06-04, 11:25 AM	There is a feat called Shape Spell, that he/you might be interested in. +1 level
Phrennzy 07-06-04, 11:32 AM	Re: Shape Spell - where is info on that located?
Egres 07-06-04, 11:58 AM	In Tome and blood. Don't know if WotC reprinted it.