Alternate Summon Monster lists? [Archive] - Wizards Community

Alternate Summon Monster lists? [Archive] - Wizards Community

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Arravis
05-26-06, 01:11 PM Over the years I've seen Alternate Summon Monster lists here and there. Does anyone know where some of these may be found, if anyone has compiled a list, or where I could find some guidelines for making my own alternate Summon Monster list? Thanks guys!
Seeker95
05-26-06, 01:55 PM Over the years, I've never seen an alternate list. I've seen plenty of folks ask if there is one, and seen plenty of folks say that they will just have to make their own. But those folks never seem to post them here.

The closest I've seen is folks asking if Monster X is a good substitute for Monster Y.
Arravis
05-26-06, 02:09 PM Yeah, I've also heard it's quite difficult to figure out what's a good monster to use. Going by CR's alone doesn't seem to work. The problem I'm having is that in my home-brew campaign there are no mammals (other than humans, who are an outsider race), birds, or sea-creatures. Basicly reptiles, insects, and plants only. So that means most of the creatures in the Summon Monster lists I can't use.
Seeker95
05-26-06, 04:48 PM I substitute by CR and HD. The CR and HD of the new creature must both be equal to or less than the CR and HD of the existing creature.
Harliquinn
05-26-06, 04:54 PM Unearthed Arcane had some rules for customized summoning lists.
Celestial_Gold_Dragon
05-26-06, 05:21 PM In Stormwrack it suggests you consider the monster's role. Is it exceptionally mobile?, a good spellcaster?, a big bruiser? Replace a creature with one that is similarly powerful and fulfills the same role, or equally important role. If you replace monsters and take lots of big bruisers on your list it weakens the spells versatility.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Arravis 05-26-06, 01:11 PM	Over the years I've seen Alternate Summon Monster lists here and there. Does anyone know where some of these may be found, if anyone has compiled a list, or where I could find some guidelines for making my own alternate Summon Monster list? Thanks guys!
Seeker95 05-26-06, 01:55 PM	Over the years, I've never seen an alternate list. I've seen plenty of folks ask if there is one, and seen plenty of folks say that they will just have to make their own. But those folks never seem to post them here. The closest I've seen is folks asking if Monster X is a good substitute for Monster Y.
Arravis 05-26-06, 02:09 PM	Yeah, I've also heard it's quite difficult to figure out what's a good monster to use. Going by CR's alone doesn't seem to work. The problem I'm having is that in my home-brew campaign there are no mammals (other than humans, who are an outsider race), birds, or sea-creatures. Basicly reptiles, insects, and plants only. So that means most of the creatures in the Summon Monster lists I can't use.
Seeker95 05-26-06, 04:48 PM	I substitute by CR and HD. The CR and HD of the new creature must both be equal to or less than the CR and HD of the existing creature.
Harliquinn 05-26-06, 04:54 PM	Unearthed Arcane had some rules for customized summoning lists.
Celestial_Gold_Dragon 05-26-06, 05:21 PM	In Stormwrack it suggests you consider the monster's role. Is it exceptionally mobile?, a good spellcaster?, a big bruiser? Replace a creature with one that is similarly powerful and fulfills the same role, or equally important role. If you replace monsters and take lots of big bruisers on your list it weakens the spells versatility.