Alterself: Feats [Archive] - Wizards Community

Alterself: Feats [Archive] - Wizards Community

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xAndurilx
10-25-05, 06:59 PM In the text of Alterself, it says you acquire bonus racial feats of the new form.
If you take the form of a Bugbear (which has 2 feats), do you then gain these two feats???

If not, what in the HAY is a racial feat?
Nephlite
10-25-05, 07:09 PM In the text of Alterself, it says you acquire bonus racial feats of the new form.
If you take the form of a Bugbear (which has 2 feats), do you then gain these two feats???

If not, what in the HAY is a racial feat?
A Racial Bonus feat (Not just a racial feat).
Example: Human bonus feat is a racial feat (of your choice) because you alter-self to a human.

Otherwise, the asterick with a (B) in MM shows bonus feats usually.

Like Thri-Kreen: get Deflect Arrows as a racial bonus feat.
xAndurilx
10-25-05, 07:13 PM So if your a Human and you Alterself into another Human, do you get the Bonus feat?
heinrich
11-02-05, 03:21 AM In theory you would for the spells duration gain a spell in this way......
Seeker95
11-02-05, 09:36 AM So if your a Human and you Alterself into another Human, do you get the Bonus feat?Yes, technically. But a human does not have a specific feat that it gains. I would rule that you simply keep the racial bonus feat you chose as a human in the first place. "In-game" this ruling would be explained as the spell takes the path of least resistance. :D
Nephlite
11-02-05, 09:44 AM Yes, technically. But a human does not have a specific feat that it gains. I would rule that you simply keep the racial bonus feat you chose as a human in the first place. "In-game" this ruling would be explained as the spell takes the path of least resistance. :D
Yeah, it is much better for non humans: Finally a good reason to play a 1/2 Elf (so you can get a bonus feat temporary as an alterself human)
Esponer
11-02-05, 11:50 AM But you're not gaining 1st level as a human: you're temporarily transforming into human form. So aren't you technically missing out on that part of your life "as a human", and therefore not qualifying for the human's "extra feat"?

It doesn't make much sense to grant yourself any feat you want just because you now look like a human.
urukar
11-02-05, 11:55 AM A lot of things about Alter self don't make much sense...

For example, why does changing into an elf suddenly let you use a longbow?
Oracurax
11-02-05, 01:10 PM Magic.
Tenreo
11-02-05, 04:06 PM A lot of things about Alter self don't make much sense...

For example, why does changing into an elf suddenly let you use a longbow?

I don't know. Why does every (non-drow) elf in the multiverse know how to use a longbow?

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
xAndurilx 10-25-05, 06:59 PM	In the text of Alterself, it says you acquire bonus racial feats of the new form. If you take the form of a Bugbear (which has 2 feats), do you then gain these two feats??? If not, what in the HAY is a racial feat?
Nephlite 10-25-05, 07:09 PM	In the text of Alterself, it says you acquire bonus racial feats of the new form. If you take the form of a Bugbear (which has 2 feats), do you then gain these two feats??? If not, what in the HAY is a racial feat? A Racial Bonus feat (Not just a racial feat). Example: Human bonus feat is a racial feat (of your choice) because you alter-self to a human. Otherwise, the asterick with a (B) in MM shows bonus feats usually. Like Thri-Kreen: get Deflect Arrows as a racial bonus feat.
xAndurilx 10-25-05, 07:13 PM	So if your a Human and you Alterself into another Human, do you get the Bonus feat?
heinrich 11-02-05, 03:21 AM	In theory you would for the spells duration gain a spell in this way......
Seeker95 11-02-05, 09:36 AM	So if your a Human and you Alterself into another Human, do you get the Bonus feat?Yes, technically. But a human does not have a specific feat that it gains. I would rule that you simply keep the racial bonus feat you chose as a human in the first place. "In-game" this ruling would be explained as the spell takes the path of least resistance. :D
Nephlite 11-02-05, 09:44 AM	Yes, technically. But a human does not have a specific feat that it gains. I would rule that you simply keep the racial bonus feat you chose as a human in the first place. "In-game" this ruling would be explained as the spell takes the path of least resistance. :D Yeah, it is much better for non humans: Finally a good reason to play a 1/2 Elf (so you can get a bonus feat temporary as an alterself human)
Esponer 11-02-05, 11:50 AM	But you're not gaining 1st level as a human: you're temporarily transforming into human form. So aren't you technically missing out on that part of your life "as a human", and therefore not qualifying for the human's "extra feat"? It doesn't make much sense to grant yourself any feat you want just because you now look like a human.
urukar 11-02-05, 11:55 AM	A lot of things about Alter self don't make much sense... For example, why does changing into an elf suddenly let you use a longbow?
Oracurax 11-02-05, 01:10 PM	Magic.
Tenreo 11-02-05, 04:06 PM	A lot of things about Alter self don't make much sense... For example, why does changing into an elf suddenly let you use a longbow? I don't know. Why does every (non-drow) elf in the multiverse know how to use a longbow?