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Pennarin 05-27-04, 08:46 PM	The description of the Shatterspike weapon special ability reads exactly like a +1 longsword that inflicts +4 damage to a weapon when sundering. It requires the Improved Sunder feat. My problem is that someone with a +1 longsword and the Improved Sunder feat does exactly that. So what does Shatterspike do?
EvilVegan 05-27-04, 08:53 PM	Lets someone use improved sunder without spending the feat on it.
Servant 05-27-04, 10:34 PM	Improved Sunder gives you a +4 on the attack roll when sundering, and averts the usual attack of opportunity. Shatterspike, basically, is considered a +4 weapon when someone with the feat uses it to sunder. You get a +4 to the opposed roll from the weapon's enhancement bonus (which does stack with the feat's bonus, but replaces the sword's regular +1 bonus, for +8 total) and a +4 to damage. Why Shatterspike only works for someone with Improved Sunder, I have no idea.
Pennarin 05-28-04, 12:08 AM	Thanks. :) The ability's description did give the impression the bonus was due to the required feat. They should have added "in addition to the bonus of the feat".
John Paul Stoddard 05-28-04, 12:36 AM	ShatterSpike was a 3.0 Version Weapon Applying the 3.0 Version rules Shatterspike was a better Weapon. 3.0 Sunder page 85 PHB Benefit: When You strike at an opponent's weapon you do not provoke an attack of oppertunity ( see Strike Weapon, page 136) So a Weilder with Sunder would get a +4 Bonus to the opposed attack roll and could damage up to +4 Weapons. ( Basically giving them the 3.5 Improved Sunder ) Fighter with Sunder without Shatterspike NO AOA Fighter with Sunder with Shatterspike NO AOA +4 Opposed Attack Roll Looks a little better now don't it. Like others have said Converting to 3.5 Version I would increase the Opposed Attack Roll to +8
Hypersmurf 05-28-04, 02:41 AM	Originally posted by John Paul Stoddard Like others have said Converting to 3.5 Version I would increase the Opposed Attack Roll to +8 You don't need to convert it... it's in the 3.5 DMG... -Hyp.
John Paul Stoddard 05-29-04, 08:15 PM	Goody for those who own the 3.5 DMG
Servant 05-29-04, 11:54 PM	Originally posted by John Paul Stoddard Goody for those who own the 3.5 DMG Or who have Internet access. (Almost the entire core rule set is online, called the SRD.) http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=d20/article/srd35
Hypersmurf 05-30-04, 01:08 AM	Originally posted by John Paul Stoddard Goody for those who own the 3.5 DMG Well, yes. The sort of people who are concerned about converting magic items to 3.5, one would hope might actually have the 3.5 rules available... -Hyp.
John Paul Stoddard 05-30-04, 06:45 PM	Currently I only Own the 3.5 PHB... Sometimes Players only Purchase the PHB and Don't buy the DM GUIDE
Hypersmurf 05-30-04, 06:55 PM	Originally posted by John Paul Stoddard Currently I only Own the 3.5 PHB... Sometimes Players only Purchase the PHB and Don't buy the DM GUIDE Sure. In which case, if you want to know about Shatterspike, ask your DM :) Or alternatively, as noted, check the SRD. -Hyp.