"Dry" spell??? [Archive] - Wizards Community

"Dry" spell??? [Archive] - Wizards Community

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Gngerman
11-12-07, 11:35 PM Any ideas on a spell that will evaporate a lot of water for a sorcerer/wizard?? There is desecrating bubble, but that is a little ambiguous as to whether it will actually absorb water as opposed to dehydrating a humanoid. I am thinking, if I am trapped in a room that is filling with water rapidly, is there a way to prolong my inevitable doom?? maybe cast desecrating bubble in the corner and watch as it acts as a drain, or even better, cast a spell that creates a hole, bye bye water.
Tedronai
11-12-07, 11:41 PM A Gate spell or Well of Many Worlds (especially to the Elemental Plane of Air; I'd suggest against the Elemental Plane of Fire as it will likely result in steamed mage being served for dinner) will serve as a phenomenal drain, though a simple Bottle of Air or Amulet of Adaptation would likely produce sufficient results if all you're looking for is to survive the experience.
Gngerman
11-12-07, 11:42 PM well, to survive the experience, I actually used gills. I was looking for more than one way though :)
CryoSilver
11-12-07, 11:51 PM Disintegrate will get rid of a ten foot cube of water each time it's cast. That's about 7500 gallons with each casting.
ArcTan
11-13-07, 02:52 PM Technically, no. Water does not count as an "object" -- what D&D means by "object" is a *solid* object, which is why all objects have a hardness value and HP.

Water doesn't block line of effect, water doesn't provide cover, and you can hit water with a slashing or bludgeoning weapon all day without ever doing enough "damage" to "destroy" it. Disintegrate and similar spells do not work on water. (Indeed, since water does not block line of effect, you can shoot disintegrate and similar spells *through* a body of water to hit someone underwater.)
jaelis
11-13-07, 03:52 PM ... water doesn't provide cover...

That part at least isn't right...

Characters swimming, floating, or treading water on the surface, or wading in water at least chest deep, have improved cover (+8 bonus to AC, +4 bonus on Reflex saves) from opponents on land.

But I agree with your general point.

There's a few spells that specifically affect water though. Freezing sphere comes to mind. And, obviously, control water, which is probably what the OP wanted.
The_Wrath_of_Talos
11-13-07, 05:05 PM Open your bag of holding, granted all your belongings will get wet but a few hundred pounds of water will be trapped in an extra dimensional space to. Otherwise rope trick would delay the envitable or alterself: gills, horrid wilting, etc.
ArcTan
11-13-07, 09:20 PM That part at least isn't right...

But I agree with your general point.

Well, okay. Water doesn't provide *total* cover, which is what matters for blocking line of effect.
Black Mantha
11-14-07, 07:06 AM Wish for 20 bags of dust of dryness. Costs 6360 XP, but gets rid of 2000 gallons of water.
Passwall makes a hole of at least 400 cubic feet.
Any wall spell might block the inflow of water.
mvincent
11-14-07, 12:43 PM And, obviously, control water, which is probably what the OP wanted.Agreed. Control Water (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/controlWater.htm) seems the most likely answer.
elondir
11-14-07, 01:04 PM You could update a Dark Sun spell Transmute Water to Dust, that would dry it up. You'd have a lot of dust though.
Bahumut
11-15-07, 06:44 AM bags of dust of dryness

quite simply, one of the COOLEST "rogue" items in the game, almost as useful as a tanglefoot bag.

seriously, any rogue character i play has 5 pouches (at least) of the dust, and 5 pellets storing 100 gallons each.
CJDragon
11-15-07, 12:41 PM seriously, any rogue character i play has 5 pouches (at least) of the dust, and 5 pellets storing 100 gallons each.

We once made 5 pellets of holy water and completely decimated our DMs vampire BBEG. There's probably some rule against this but hey, we were young, naive and liked the idea of throwing a single pebble and killing hoards of undead... good times:D
Bahumut
11-15-07, 12:50 PM We once made 5 pellets of holy water and completely decimated our DMs vampire BBEG. There's probably some rule against this but hey, we were young, naive and liked the idea of throwing a single pebble and killing hoards of undead... good times:D

that seems perfectly acceptable by RAW to me. anyone got anything that says you cant use special water? it says you can do it to any water, even alkaline water, so why not holy water?
bfiggins
11-15-07, 12:56 PM I remember something in Sandstorm designed specifically to absorb large quantities of water.
mvincent
11-15-07, 01:10 PM We once made 5 pellets of holy water and completely decimated our DMs vampire BBEG. There's probably some rule against this but hey, we were young, naive and liked the idea of throwing a single pebble and killing hoards of undead... good times:DI've researched this same sort of thing. It appears legit. Mind you: it's painfully expensive (uses up a lot of holy water), and shouldn't really do full damage for each dose. The immersion rules in D&D appear to simply x10 normal damage... so dousing a vampire in several hundred doses of holy water (effectively immersing him) should do about 20d4 damage.
CJDragon
11-16-07, 06:42 AM I've researched this same sort of thing. It appears legit. Mind you: it's painfully expensive (uses up a lot of holy water), and shouldn't really do full damage for each dose. The immersion rules in D&D appear to simply x10 normal damage... so dousing a vampire in several hundred doses of holy water (effectively immersing him) should do about 20d4 damage.

On the expense side we just had our cleric prepare bless water every day for like a month of down time to get them ready to save money, lol. We also didn't make it do max damage, since thats just insane, but we did seal the room so the vampires were literally up to their knees in holy goodness, and thus took damage each round in addition to initial damage
jaelis
11-16-07, 08:31 AM On the expense side we just had our cleric prepare bless water every day for like a month of down time to get them ready to save money, lol...

Since the material component for the bless water spell costs just as much as buying holy water, I don't see how that would save you any money.
CJDragon
11-16-07, 09:33 AM Since the material component for the bless water spell costs just as much as buying holy water, I don't see how that would save you any money.

Hmm, touche... ok, it still cost us a helluva lot of money then, but was still totally worth it when used in conjuction with a home made holy hand grenade :P

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Gngerman 11-12-07, 11:35 PM	Any ideas on a spell that will evaporate a lot of water for a sorcerer/wizard?? There is desecrating bubble, but that is a little ambiguous as to whether it will actually absorb water as opposed to dehydrating a humanoid. I am thinking, if I am trapped in a room that is filling with water rapidly, is there a way to prolong my inevitable doom?? maybe cast desecrating bubble in the corner and watch as it acts as a drain, or even better, cast a spell that creates a hole, bye bye water.
Tedronai 11-12-07, 11:41 PM	A Gate spell or Well of Many Worlds (especially to the Elemental Plane of Air; I'd suggest against the Elemental Plane of Fire as it will likely result in steamed mage being served for dinner) will serve as a phenomenal drain, though a simple Bottle of Air or Amulet of Adaptation would likely produce sufficient results if all you're looking for is to survive the experience.
Gngerman 11-12-07, 11:42 PM	well, to survive the experience, I actually used gills. I was looking for more than one way though :)
CryoSilver 11-12-07, 11:51 PM	Disintegrate will get rid of a ten foot cube of water each time it's cast. That's about 7500 gallons with each casting.
ArcTan 11-13-07, 02:52 PM	Technically, no. Water does not count as an "object" -- what D&D means by "object" is a solid object, which is why all objects have a hardness value and HP. Water doesn't block line of effect, water doesn't provide cover, and you can hit water with a slashing or bludgeoning weapon all day without ever doing enough "damage" to "destroy" it. Disintegrate and similar spells do not work on water. (Indeed, since water does not block line of effect, you can shoot disintegrate and similar spells through a body of water to hit someone underwater.)
jaelis 11-13-07, 03:52 PM	... water doesn't provide cover... That part at least isn't right... Characters swimming, floating, or treading water on the surface, or wading in water at least chest deep, have improved cover (+8 bonus to AC, +4 bonus on Reflex saves) from opponents on land. But I agree with your general point. There's a few spells that specifically affect water though. Freezing sphere comes to mind. And, obviously, control water, which is probably what the OP wanted.
The_Wrath_of_Talos 11-13-07, 05:05 PM	Open your bag of holding, granted all your belongings will get wet but a few hundred pounds of water will be trapped in an extra dimensional space to. Otherwise rope trick would delay the envitable or alterself: gills, horrid wilting, etc.
ArcTan 11-13-07, 09:20 PM	That part at least isn't right... But I agree with your general point. Well, okay. Water doesn't provide total cover, which is what matters for blocking line of effect.
Black Mantha 11-14-07, 07:06 AM	Wish for 20 bags of dust of dryness. Costs 6360 XP, but gets rid of 2000 gallons of water. Passwall makes a hole of at least 400 cubic feet. Any wall spell might block the inflow of water.
mvincent 11-14-07, 12:43 PM	And, obviously, control water, which is probably what the OP wanted.Agreed. Control Water (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/controlWater.htm) seems the most likely answer.
elondir 11-14-07, 01:04 PM	You could update a Dark Sun spell Transmute Water to Dust, that would dry it up. You'd have a lot of dust though.
Bahumut 11-15-07, 06:44 AM	bags of dust of dryness quite simply, one of the COOLEST "rogue" items in the game, almost as useful as a tanglefoot bag. seriously, any rogue character i play has 5 pouches (at least) of the dust, and 5 pellets storing 100 gallons each.
CJDragon 11-15-07, 12:41 PM	seriously, any rogue character i play has 5 pouches (at least) of the dust, and 5 pellets storing 100 gallons each. We once made 5 pellets of holy water and completely decimated our DMs vampire BBEG. There's probably some rule against this but hey, we were young, naive and liked the idea of throwing a single pebble and killing hoards of undead... good times:D
Bahumut 11-15-07, 12:50 PM	We once made 5 pellets of holy water and completely decimated our DMs vampire BBEG. There's probably some rule against this but hey, we were young, naive and liked the idea of throwing a single pebble and killing hoards of undead... good times:D that seems perfectly acceptable by RAW to me. anyone got anything that says you cant use special water? it says you can do it to any water, even alkaline water, so why not holy water?
bfiggins 11-15-07, 12:56 PM	I remember something in Sandstorm designed specifically to absorb large quantities of water.
mvincent 11-15-07, 01:10 PM	We once made 5 pellets of holy water and completely decimated our DMs vampire BBEG. There's probably some rule against this but hey, we were young, naive and liked the idea of throwing a single pebble and killing hoards of undead... good times:DI've researched this same sort of thing. It appears legit. Mind you: it's painfully expensive (uses up a lot of holy water), and shouldn't really do full damage for each dose. The immersion rules in D&D appear to simply x10 normal damage... so dousing a vampire in several hundred doses of holy water (effectively immersing him) should do about 20d4 damage.
CJDragon 11-16-07, 06:42 AM	I've researched this same sort of thing. It appears legit. Mind you: it's painfully expensive (uses up a lot of holy water), and shouldn't really do full damage for each dose. The immersion rules in D&D appear to simply x10 normal damage... so dousing a vampire in several hundred doses of holy water (effectively immersing him) should do about 20d4 damage. On the expense side we just had our cleric prepare bless water every day for like a month of down time to get them ready to save money, lol. We also didn't make it do max damage, since thats just insane, but we did seal the room so the vampires were literally up to their knees in holy goodness, and thus took damage each round in addition to initial damage
jaelis 11-16-07, 08:31 AM	On the expense side we just had our cleric prepare bless water every day for like a month of down time to get them ready to save money, lol... Since the material component for the bless water spell costs just as much as buying holy water, I don't see how that would save you any money.
CJDragon 11-16-07, 09:33 AM	Since the material component for the bless water spell costs just as much as buying holy water, I don't see how that would save you any money. Hmm, touche... ok, it still cost us a helluva lot of money then, but was still totally worth it when used in conjuction with a home made holy hand grenade :P